Melbourne

How Melbourne sees MelbourneThe reality

Flying into Melbourne on a good day, there are enough breaks in the clouds to see Port Phillip Bay, around which, the city grew.  With a water temperature that rarely makes it above 19C it is best not swim in there without neoprene protection, unless you are from Scotland or need some ice water muscle rehab.

This flat, grid based city on a dirty brown river that supposedly runs upside down, has no outstanding structure visible that the world would instantly recognise as “Melbawn”.  It is a dead ringer for any other city that has tall buildings and commuters.  A fantasy many of the locals have, is that Melbourne is Australia’s most European city. How they have come to this conclusion is unfathomable.

Kinder interstate travelers will often say “at least you don’t need a passport to visit” and “you can get a good cup of coffee there” which is praise indeed for a city of over 3 million people … they have coffee. The weather certainly won’t impress.  The legendary four changes of season in a day (if you’re lucky) keeps the locals on their toes, as they need at least three clothing changes at all times and usually all black in this faux Paris.

Summer is a whole three weeks when the winds move around from the usual chilly damp Antarctic blast to the roasting northern desert winds. It is like opening an oven door in an ice rink.  After ten minutes, everything is so dry, it is now a time of high bush fire alert with life in peril.  Do not expect palm trees and sunshine, most of the year is cold, only the temperate Canary palm can survive the icy blasting that is great for clearing a hangover, but the weather may have been the reason for resorting to alcohol the previous night. The sharp freezing winds are probably the reason Australians from northern states refer to Melbourne as “bleak city” and why locals, nearing the end of their lives, dream of traveling north in a caravan toward warm weather.  After all, any means that can get them out of the place before they die, will do.

The continual background hum you will hear originates from copious banal conversations about “footy” or AFL. Here everyone worships AFL, a quaint coloqial sport that has become a doomsday cult, with the end of the world predicted to arrive in the shape of a round soccer ball. AFL has masticised into Melbourne, it oozes from every brick and pore of the city, it watches you. AFL invades every conversation, talking recipes? AFL will get in there well before the fan forced oven temperature recommendation. If you do not convert, you will be shunned at work from the Monday morning footy results chatter, all the way through to the Friday afternoon footy tipping predictions and all the mindless AFL banter between. You also risk being run out of town.  The only escape is moving across running water, the Murray will suffice but the Tweed will be safer. If you have been brought up inside the cult, you will be blind and continue to worship at the large ugly concrete bunker that is the MCG, but to outsiders the cult is a freakish marriage of sport and religion.

All is not bad, crime is very organised and active. As a city of tradition, crime is kept in family structures but they are mostly bungling and inept just like all their good friends in the police force. Melbourne is a multicultural city and boasts gangs whose origins are from all over the globe and show remarkable inclusive tendencies by picking victims from all backgrounds and religions.

Melbourne is extremely traditional and hierarchical, don’t you dare stir the pot, locals like it as it is and how it has always been. Happily living the same year over and over again. Living there more than a year is a waste of time. Grand Final, Spring Racing Carnival and Bush Fire Alerts all scheduled with the same news items with the same scripts each year, the writers of “Ground Hog Day” must have been to Melbourne. It is the 1950s with internet.

Tourism bosses needing to show a fascinating city previously chose to advertise Melbourne as having a giant ball of string, I cannot imagine the disappointment when visitors found there was no ball of string.
      Kicker

  1. I spent 2 weeks in Melbourne it was a hole, I would have even flown Tiger to get out.

  2. Here’s a tip for visiting Melbourne – don’t let the locals know there are other places outside Victoria they think that Melbourne is the centre of the unviverse and all human kind love AFL. I never had a summer there in the 7 years I lived there, just the occasional very hot day. Melbournians are so up themselves they can see out of their mouths. The only good thing about the place is there are no security fences to stop you escaping north.

    • “Melbournians are so up themselves they can see out of their mouths.” what kind of idiot says shit like that when everywhere else is a shithole too. Well at least we can see, the rest of the world may as well be blinded by there stupidity.

  3. Melbourne is a sulking teenager jealous of its older and more attractive sibling, Sydney. All that sulking make it an even more horrible place than it is. Get over yourself Melbourne, you’re not number one and I don’t think you are even number two anymore.

  4. I visited Melbourne once. It was a nice city. I liked the trams especially. One could perhaps even tolerate living there if the weather didn’t completely suck. How the three million Melbournians manage it, I’ll never know.

  5. have you ever seen a newspaper in Melbourne? ‘Insert AFL team here’ front, back and sport section. The sports section on the tv news is AFL then an add then a general sports wrap up of other sports. I guess with a city accomodating multiple AFL teams you get a wide range of fans – toothless, mullet, beer gut bogans (Collingwood) to the snobs. AFL final is at the G – you sign up now, you may have a membership in 40 or 50 years!

  6. from http://jaccerz.com ….”I really hate Melbourne. I used to love it, but now I hate it. After working two jobs in the city, I have realised that the people of Melbourne are oppurtunists. For example:

    Trams and Trains: It doesnt matter if you get on a packed train at the first stop, and by halfway through the ride, it is emptied due to people changing to go to another line, and as you move to sit down, someone who just gone on, pushes you out of the way so they can sit down on the seat you were heading for.

    Shopping: Many times Ive stood inline to buy whatever I wanted at the time, to have snotty girls dressed like they should be working at hooters to push in infront of me and to take longer to pay due to their phone coversation. Typically this consists of “ohhhhhh my godddddd” and other shit that I couldnt really give two hoots about.

    There are many other examples, to me it makes me question Is Melbourne really the most liveable city?”

  7. Melburnians seem to think everyone else is inferior and are very ‘clicky’ and even ‘snobby’.

  8. Trams are great until one breaks down then none can move

  9. FromScratchToGlory

    % Things I hate about Melbourne:
    1) Melbourne weather :- the most unpredictable of all. Amazing windy mornings…one can go out with out jacket, it’ll be around 12*c..Then in the afternoon out of know where a drizzle followed by cloudy skies. When its around 6pm, a biting cold weather fills the air, taking effect from top to bottom .
    2) Tram ticket Checkers:- If there was a community of people who are painful while they are at work, then they are these folks. They check even at 11.30pm, and put a fine on a person who couldn’t buy a ticket in the first instance. Hawk eyed, and for international sudents like me these dudes create the first instance of facing melbournians.
    3) TV Channels – If in any country where TV programs are called crap. Then aus should be also in that list. If one cannot subscribe a 60$ ~ cable TV..be prepared to settle for utter crap.
    4) No burning activity :- No lallu prasad yadav or goerge bush in action. Its a silent and well structured place.
    5) Food – Even with many asian food courts, i feel the food is not so good. For a vegetarian it is very much limited. For non vegetarians chicken is the only thing which is almost always in the menu.

  10. Melbourne has declared itself “sporting capital of the world.” Let me tell you all, Melbourne has ZERO power and ZERO influence in the sporting world.
    None of the world’s sporting bodies eg. FIFA, IOC, ICC, IAAF, IRB, CGF, PGA etc.. have their headquarters in Melbourne. None of the big decisions and changes that occur …in the sports world are made in Melbourne.
    Melbourne does NOT call the shots in the sporting world.
    Sporting capital, my arse…….

    • It’s the sporting capital because it hosts the Australian Open, F1, TT bikes, AFL grand final, top NRL team, majority of AFL teams and every year hosts a world class soccer tournament. No other city plays host to that many top sport events.

      • The WORLD… sporting capital of the WORLD. You probably need to get out more if you think Melbourne has anywhere near as many world class sporting events as dozens of cities in the US and hundreds of other cities worldwide, then you’re the epitome of what is wrong with Melbourne.

      • NicerUpNorth

        Australian Open is a grand slam event but there are 3 others and Melbourne is the smallest. F1 – not really sport but there are 19 other events anually and Melbourne is the smallest. AFL doesn’t count at all as it is a quaint local sport for southern parts of Australia with no interest any where else. NRL sort of the same but for QLD and NSW does have a bigger TV audience though. World Class soccer tournament??? Australia has never had one. I suggest a trip to the opticians to cure your Melbourne Myopia.
        Sporting capital my arse.

      • Afl twice, nice work.

      • London does.

  11. There is no train link from Melbourne to the airport, if you hire a car you will have to pay tolls, if you take the bus it is expensive and takes you nowhere near where you need to go and if you use a taxi remember to have a smart phone on babelfish. This is all because Melbourne does not want you there, it only wants those who can be picked up from the airport, themselves.

  12. Whenever I go to Melbourne, people there always go out of their way to say something negative about Sydney…they obsess about it. They say we in Sydney think we are so much better and always want to one up poor Melbourne..the real truth is people in Sydney see Malbin’ as just another Australian city where people talk funny (like Adelaide) and play a stupid footy game. Thats it…we don’t obsess about you…we just ignore you. Get over yourselves.

  13. Just back from there. Hoon capital of Australia, trains dangerous and covered in graffiti, ditto the stations. Some shops closed down, cold and miserable weather, it must have taken some dining out to get that guernsey

  14. Melbourne? Horrible, grey, dirty, depressing little town.

    • Well said Tory Boy. Against my wishes, have to live in this despicable, backwards, shanty town!

    • I hate Melbourne and I was born here I fact I hate the whole country.fuck you Australia

      • robert burgos

        Yes living in Australia is starting to get to me. Its over rated and badly managed by the politicians who just dont get it. Its a shitty place if you are single and there is no shortage of shitheads in and out of the work place.

    • I just spent 4 days in Melbourne and couldn’t believe how dirty and loud it is. So much construction which is obviously funded from WAs share of the GST. The only food appears to be Asian dumplings, bubble tea or maccas. So disappointed and so changed since I was last there 3 years ago. I think I will stick to travelling to Noosa or anywhere really that isn’t Melbourne.

  15. Most livable city? the most livable city for criminals, you need to kill at least 3 persons to get life sentence, first 2 murders only get 10 years jail. Also good for being lazy, you don’t need to work to get government handouts. Finally the most livable is public transport, government spent 3.6billion dollars, 7 years could not get the bloody ticket system going, you can ride free.

    • I came here years ago, to play music and what a mistake
      that was..
      The amount of ego maniacs here I have seen I was
      gob smacked, at open mikes etc, it made me want to vomit.

      Comparison states..
      I have been all around Australia and liked
      Darwin, Perth (rocked) Queensland up north, like Cairns is awesome!

      Adelaide is great if you like it more quiet and it’s safer.
      The amount of violence I ve seen here over the last few years is appalling.

      The night life..
      I have seen girls fighting like
      wild cats in Richmond inside a cab,
      where the inside of the door seal was
      ripped off and strewn on the pavement
      amongst high heels, broken makeup and
      other bits of clothing.

      I have seen mass brawls in the city in one night club, where there were numerous
      amount of police panel vans and security
      cars deployed in Melbourne one night
      few years ago..
      I had also seen mass
      brawls in St Kilda and also a friend of mine was put in hospital by a thug..

      Beaches…
      What can I say here, St Kilda really, Melbourne has the most ugliest beaches, not
      just in Australia, but the whole planet unless
      you drive hours away, and I wish someone
      would take a crowbar to those horrible, over priced bathing
      boxes pull em apart and have a huge bonfire on a cold winters night!!

      The city…
      The city is ugly going over the Westgate
      and traffic is always bottle necked on most roads.
      The city itself is ugly and cold, it reminds
      me of Gotham City with the buildings
      and apartments rising like a cancer.

      Infrastructure…
      Public transport is almost below average
      in performance for a large city..
      We all know about over crowding on trams, trains and buses, which is very similar to third world conditions, this is no exaggeration, these, are facts..
      So much money wasted in prettying up Southern Cross which could of been pumped
      into an already over strained system..

      Housing…

      The terrace houses are so ugly.
      I would like to drive a huge bull dozer
      like the one in “Avatar” and demolish
      the whole lot of them!!
      This feeble attempt at architecture
      of the most horrid kind is on par
      with this damn housing affordability crises!!

      My experience here..
      From my detailed observation from living in Melbourne, it ain’t the most liveable city by
      far, and what a load if old cobblers!!!
      I have a name for this place and its
      nickname is “psycho city”…
      Sorry, but this is a fact, as I have never
      seen so many angry people living in cohesion
      with one another, maybe it’s the city
      itself with all its corruption and multinationals company cash cows, drug dealers, corrupt government services or an ever increasing narcissistic culture, most vile, feeding coal in the mouth of this big hungry beast we call, Melbourne…

  16. Melbourne sucks – I know, because I live here.

    • I’m a Canadian living in Melbourne (unfortunately) and I can assure you that compared to Canadian cities Melbourne is indeed an extremely drab, dreary, run down, dirty brown dump of a city. Truly an depressing place.

      • Well fuck off back to Canada u moose fucking whale eater

      • NicerUpNorth

        David, I hope you enjoyed Danny’s typical Melbourne hospitality

      • That’s how Melbourne ppl are, nice work Danny surprised u can write ..

      • Totally agree. It’s got to at least be warmer than Canada but still not warm enough for my liking and the bogan mentality plaguing the city is enough to drive you into being a hermit.

    • So true

  17. Melbourne seems to be built around bogans watching sport and getting drunk. My foreign friends are shocked when they come here, the city is pretty much dead by 6pm, remaining activities are largely limited to drinking alcohol, McDonalds or going home at 7pm because there’s nothing to in the CBD.

    • I’ve been in Melbourne for 2 years… and I’m going nuts!!!!!!!!!!! I hate it. It’s an ugly place that they’ve tried desperately to dress up. I love the markets, but, that’s about it. Unfortunately, they really aren’t worth living here for. I’ve lived in 4 different places since I’ve been here and I can’t do it anymore. I grew up in Sydney, and it does suck. But, at least the weather is good and it’s easy to find somewhere pretty to relax and unwind, or at least live!!!

      I’m so over living in Melbourne. It’s really not a nice place to live.

      I’m out of here when my lease is up. Ewww, I hate it. I’m glad it’s not just me. I felt like I might be mentally unwell, but, I think it’s actually that this place is massively awful. I can’t wait to move.

      • yep, i lived there two years to. I am from Brisbane originally and Melbourne was one of the biggest disappointments and bad decisions of my life. The people here go on and on about how good they are how they are so accepting of foreigners and how they decided to become vegan. But the truth is they are horrible people. The amount of dirty looks and remarks made at your expense while walking through certain suburbs just for not wearing the proper clothing or the standard dull Melbourne colours. People must be so bored here all they do is look for problems with people who aren’t Melbourne enough. And don’t get me started on the women!! seriously it is a dull depressing city full of narcissistic, social climbing assholes!! We have been sold a lie about this place!!

  18. – Worst Public transport ( Crappy Trains and useless Myki)
    – Violent friday nights in the city
    – Nasty road work and traffic in the city
    – Crappy Airport

  19. I did “live” and I mean “live” there last year! It’s a hole! The only reason so many people attend an AFL game is because there is NOTHING else to do down there! It’s a flat waste land.

    I love the way you think you’re a cosmopolitan city but seriously you’re a big country town with some class divide between the haves and the have nots!

    I thought the whole Sydney v Melbourne things was a myth until I lived there! We don’t care about Melbourne!

    Your alcohol is a rip off because you’re want to be European – in a laneway IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER! And your claim to fame as far as food goes is “Parma and a pot”! And let’s not start of the weather …. the floods in the middle of the city … and the dirty brown swamp that runs through it.

    The reason you’ve voted yourselves No. 1 is testament to the fact that there really is nothing else to do down there!!

  20. I have lived in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Tokyo, London, Singapore and Munich. The shortest continuous time I have spent in any of them is ten months. The only one I wouldn’t live in again is Melbourne.
    Why? My feeling is that the benefit of being in Australia is in the weather and the beaches. Melbourne doesn’t have that. For food, transport, shopping and culture (unless you are a complete ignoramus) there is simply no Australian city that is even at the starting line – including Melbourne.

  21. 1) This chip on many Melbourne shoulders about Sydney… sorry peeps, get over it. Sydney is the bigger, more prominent city. Who cares? Melbourne is not attractive compared to Sydney, no “real” beaches (c’mon, Port Phillip bay does not count!) no bridge… again, who cares?
    2) “Who do you barrack for”? The first thing anyone I met for two years said to me… wtf?
    3) Level crossings – the only thing I genuinely hate about Melbourne. How on earth have you people managed to get to the year 2011 (nearly 12) and still have hundreds of level crossings?
    I think when the plane landed, bringing me to Melbourne, the pilot announced – “welcome to Melbourne, it’s raining and 6 degrees, please set your watches back 30 years”.

  22. AFL isn’t footy, it isn’t even a sport, it’s just shit

  23. Considering how cold it is the houses have little insulation and rarely have adequate heating, you will need jumoers aplenty even in summer. Deluded and Inappropriate building codes for such a temperate climate.

  24. On a recent trip to Melbourne one of the things that sticks in my mind is sitting at a tram stop at the Vic markets with my two young children watching a man that certainly appeared to be, shall we say “socially and financially disadvantaged” and clearly very drunk, laying on the opposite tram stop bench, vomiting periodically onto the ground.

  25. DriveByHeckler

    AFL in Melbourne certainly is a freakish mix of sport and religion but worse. Enrolling unborn children into AFL club memberships is embryonic indoctrination and far beyond the antics of any evil religion. AFL is a Southern State cult and like all groups of insular like minded wierdos, to be avoided at all costs.

  26. Redeker Plan

    I’m a Melbourne girl, and I’ve had it up to the back teeth with footy and all the shite that goes along with it. It’s not actually the game itself, which on one level I can admire as a brilliant display of athleticism and fitness. It’s the fact that There.Is.No.Escape. Pages and pages in the newspaper. News bulletins start with the main footy news of the day and then briefly move on to war, plague, famine, politics for 10 minutes and then Look! The sports segment! More footy! Gossip about who pissed on the dancefloor of which nightclub last weekend! Whose tangerine girlfriend is that and who is she wearing? Gag me with a spoon.

    Still if you think we women have it hard to admit they’re not into footy, pity the poor bloke who hates it. I was lucky enough to find a bloke who’s not into footy (or any other spectator sport). He works in a blue-collar industry and pretty much gets treated like a freak – once the other blokes find out he’s not into it they literally cannot think of anything else to talk about, so awkward silence reigns until another bloke walks in and the conversation starts from scratch. He tried for a while to feign interest but reading about it so he knew what to say did his head in. (from thePunch.com.au)

  27. USA USA USA

    A good general discussion on Sydney and other places is at http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/lifestyle/life/shrimp-on-the-barbie-more-like-the-raw-prawn-for-unsocial-australians-20111025-1mi97.html?comments=203#comments
    Very honest comments popping the ‘Friendly Australia’ Myth

  28. Melbourne is the try-hard crap-hole of Ausralia. It’s full of pretentious arty-farty wannabes and second-rate back-of-house operatives because pay-roll tax is cheaper down there. Melbourne has nothing going for it except a few events that they steal from other cities

  29. Iescapedyoucantoo

    Melbourne was developed in the 19thC on the discovery of gold. This has given the city an historic undercurrent of parvenu snobbery. It persists to this day. Then it became, for about 100 years and until recently, a proud red-banner waving hometown of the labour movement. That gave it a kind of working-class reverse snobbery. Then there were the competing factions of protestantism and catholicism. When I was a child in Melb a billion years ago, a “mixed marriage” was a small, gossipy social scandal of a Catholic marrying a Protestant. Life in Melb was enormously parochial along above mentioned lines, until Sunday trading was introduced in the 1980’s. Then slowly, slowly, the need to go shopping replaced the obligation to attend religious services. Now it is not a case of “get in the car, we’ll be late for church”, but “get in the car, there are cheap SD cards/tennis racquets/xylophones at ALDI”. Once upon a time there was a Premier called Dick Hamer who was a Liberal but advocated and achieved many kinds of solid social improvement: no fault divorce, decriminalisation of homosexuality and abortion and the establishment of the Arts Centre and College of the Arts. Ironically he was also the premier who relaxed the Sunday trading laws. His vision for a ‘cultural capital’ has been surpassed by the need for Victorians to buy cheap garden gnomes at discount retailers. The really big disappointment has been his plan for green wedges and city limits being ignored by subsequent state govts of both colours as they pocket the revenue of stamp duty and cave in to the insidious power of the construction industry unions. This is why the city is SO unmanageably large and the public transport, therefore, utter rubbish. Cars are a big money-spinner for Spring St and PT is a hopeless write off. The message is quite clear: buy a car or go live elsewhere. This is also why the once beautiful country roads and rolling hills of Lysterfield and Rowville are now pimpled and pock-scarred with McMansions. The sheer misery of seeing a once beautiful hinterland bulldozed for poorly thought out housing, by a new world government with a mandate for progress is one of the reasons, amongst others as mentioned earlier, why I will never live there again.

  30. Are you serious? Making an about how much you hate melbourne? How about you make a blog about some real issues in this world like poverty or global warming, rather than writing about how slow a tram is or how much ‘footy talk’ there is.

    • Melbourne is the best place in the world, lived here my whole life and will continue to. I love AFL, Sport, Multiculturalism, cafes, restaurants, bars and the lifestyle. I also like cool changes on a hot day and the change of season.
      If you havent found anything good you are clearly looking in the wrong places. Every city has its ups and downs, for the fastest growing city in Australia, set to become the largest in Australia within the next 25 years, Something must be quite appealing about it.

    • Because Melbourne is a ‘real’ problem.

  31. Melbourne is a smug country town that wishes to reduce everything to its own mediocre dimensions. It hates Sydney because it’s everything Melbourne isn’t exotic colourful good weather good beaches people with a sense of humour . It hates Adelaide because it can and looks out to the world i.e. Tasmania and Antarctica because that’s all it can cope with. It is obsessed with what school you went to so it can pigeon hole people rather than what people can be and hides in the black shroud loved by serious people because it hides ugly bodies. Melbourne will never be no 1 city in Australia it will always be No. 1 cringe Capitol.

  32. Love your depiction of this hideous city! Well done.

  33. Melbourne is ok, I’ve lived there for years – but I agree with pretty much everything that people have said about it in previous entries. Melbourne is “nice” but a little dull, there are laws about everything and people all seem to dress and think the same. The one thing that I really hate about Melbourne is AFL. It is so damn dull and people seem to think that it is totally okay to rave on about if for hours wherever you go. This isn’t restricted to boring ignorant people, it is really widespread. If Melbourne wanted to have a useful law then it should have legislate against talking about AFL for more than one minute a day. That would make it a far better place to live and would encourage its thoroughly decent citizens to think about all the other things that this world has to offer. Well, at least it would make it easier for me to live here.

    Now, if you want to talk about a real shit hole, has anybody ever been to Geelong?

  34. I’m so relieved to find this thread! It’s so depressing here, I’d get the hell out but I’m stuck here for the rest of the year then I’m getting as far away from this city as I can possibly get. Melbournians couldn’t recognise a good thing if it whacked them over their stuck up heads. Most of them have never really travelled, Grampians or Dandenong National Park not included. This I believe might bring these people back to earth. They have a huge chip on their shoulder, nose held up high! I have to deal with these insecure ankle biting, racially discriminative, back stabbing people everyday. No hospitality, absolute tight arses. Can’t stand the place. Be warned don’t think of living here unless you have to.

  35. I struggled with the constant snobbery and need to pigeon-hole people. The concentration of asset ownership amongst the privileged “families” means that every opportunist spends their life sucking up to these moneyed interests. A truly repressive culture reminiscent of something from the mid 20th century.

    Melburnians seem to long for the past and are very unwelcoming of those from other places. Their interests in the most banal details of each others lives just doesnt make sense to me.

    A real shit hole of a place populated by some small minded people.

    • I grew up in Melbourne in the 60s. I’ve lived and worked in it for decades. I’ve lived out of it for over a decade, and now also live part of my life in Europe. The city has changed immeasurably. It was always paraochial, as was much of Australia (Inc Sydney!). What was pleasant has long since been ripped down. As a city it could be anywhere now. It’s not particularly nice to live in. It has a shockingly snobbish set of families who inhabit such dreary institutions as the Melbourne club. They are parochial and small minded. The whole place is based on a trashy display of wealth which they try to pretend is understated. They wear gold signer rings with arms purchased in the 70’s from the college of Arms at huge expense in a vain attempt to to be “gentry”. Most are jumped upreal estate agents from the local expensive schools whose grandfather or great grandfather was a bit of a success at business. The city also has lots of even flashier nouveau riche who also, call themselves “establishment”. The spring carnival is a crass piss up marketed as Royal ascot with drunken “fillies” vomiting at every turn.

  36. This post pretty much describes the entire country, not just Melbourne. (But then all cities in Aust are exactly the same. Sydney is just a slightly bigger version of Melb, and Melb is just a slightly bigger version of Perth).

    The selling point of Australia is the countryside/nature stuff, not the cities. No city here can compare with the giants of New York, London, Hong Kong, etc.

    Also this Melbourne vs Sydney thing seems kinda silly…I mean, you’re both exactly the same. Sydney is slightly bigger and hotter, but that’s about it. Otherwise, this whole “competition” feels like some sort of country bumpkin thing (“MY dirt village is better than yours!”). Only people who are uncultured and have never been out of their state will engage in this sort of rivalry.

  37. You can some up Melbourne in a couple of words “OLD” “BORING” “PREHISTORIC” “DIRTY” “SHIT PLACE TO VISIT”

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  40. Roberto Georgio

    I have been to Melbourne on several occasions for business, and continue to be amazed about all the hype surrounding this sub standard City, I consider it, the end of the road, this is the last place you would want to visit. A dirty, muddy, Yarra river and during winter, the inner City streets, are freezing cold, dirty, windy, dusty, and most without Sunshine, due to the tall buildings and narrow streets.

  41. yeah bro

  42. Over this city

    Can someone please explain to me that no matter where you go in Melbourne – restaurants, shops, parties, taxis etc – the moment its population discovers you are from Sydney, they go out of their way to be rude about where you are from and begin telling you all the reasons why Sydney is so horrible / direct / unfriendly / insert whatever attack you want here.

    After years of putting up with this, I discovered the solution – I just respond ‘Newcastle’ when people ask where I am from. Sure, I was born there, but Sydney has been my home since I was 1. But saying Newcastle silences the Sydney-hating whenever anyone asks.

    By the way, poor Melbourne doesn’t just hate Sydney. They hate Brisbane too, as well as Adelaide and will happily tell you why Canberra is also horrible. Perth, consider yourself lucky you are so far away that they don’t have an opinion. What an angry city with a huge chip on their shoulder about everyone else Melbourne is.

  43. only if I have to

    I dislike MALbawn. Why?

    There’s that sense of ‘superiority of place’ that comes across from so many Melbournians.

    Funny how they seem to know so much about other cities in Australia (I’m from Adelaide). I f you ever mention you’re from Adelaide, you’d be better off saying you have Ebola or AIDS.

    Yet if you ask them if they’ve been there the answer is invariably, “No”. They have not. Or they visited their Aunt Mavis in Adelaide on a rainy day in the winter of 1987. These days I only visit Melbourne if I have to.

  44. Melbourne

    I came here years ago, to play music and what a mistake
    that was..
    The amount of ego maniacs here I have seen I was
    gob smacked, at open mikes, it made me want to vomit.

    Comparison states..
    I have been all around Australia and liked
    Darwin, Perth (rocked) Queensland up north, like Cairns is awesome!

    Adelaide is great if you like it more quiet and it’s safer.
    The amount of violence I ve seen here over the last few years is appalling.

    The night life..
    I have seen girls fighting like
    wild cats in Richmond inside a cab, where the inside of the door seal was
    ripped off and strewn on the pavement
    amongst high heels, broken makeup and
    other bits of clothing.

    I have seen mass brawls in the city in one night club, where there were numerous
    amount of police panel vans and security cars deployed in Melbourne one night
    few years ago..
    I had also seen mass
    brawls in St Kilda and also a friend of mine was put in hospital by a thug here..

    Beaches…
    What can I say here, St Kilda really, Melbourne has the most ugliest beaches, not
    just in Australia, but the whole planet unless you drive hours away and I wish someone
    would take a crowbar to those horrible, over priced bathing
    boxes pull em apart and have a huge bonfire on some beach on a cold winters
    night!!

    The city…
    The city is ugly going over the Westgate
    and traffic is always bottle necked on most roads.
    The city itself is ugly and cold, it reminds
    me of Gotham City with the buildings
    and apartments rising like a cancer.

    Infrastructure…
    Public transport is almost below average
    in performance for a large city..
    We all know about over crowding on trams, trains and buses, which is very similar to third world conditions, this is no exaggeration, these, are facts..
    So much money wasted in prettying up Southern Cross which could of been pumped
    into an already over strained system..

    Housing…

    The terrace houses are so ugly.
    I would like to drive a huge bull dozer
    like the one in “Avatar” and demolish
    the whole lot of them!!
    This feeble attempt at architecture
    of the most horrid kind is on par
    with this damn housing affordability crises!!

    Climate..
    Weather is weather the city can’t
    help that as sea water comes from the arctic
    in winter, and is largely responsible for why it gets so cold here..

    My experience here..
    From my detailed observation from living in Melbourne, it ain’t the most liveable cities by
    far, and what a load if old cobblers!!!
    I have a name for this place and its
    nickname is “psycho city”…
    Sorry, but this is a fact, as I have never
    seen so many angry people living in cohesion
    with one another, maybe it’s the city
    itself with all its corruption and multinational company cash cows, drug dealers, corrupt government services or an ever increasing narcissistic culture, most vile, feeding coal in the mouth of this big hungry beast we call, Melbourne…

  45. Just came back to Melbourne after a few years away, My biggest mistake ever… This city is a whole, Th AFL is king topic what the heck really what a joke of a sport, Grand Final weekend all over so quick,why can they not be like all the other sports who win the league wins the title… Melbourne sports capital of the world, what a joke, The Melbourne cup is nothing compared to Royal Ascot, as is Wimbledon, as is St Andrews golf, as is Monaco grand prix, likewise the 500CC GP in the UK all better events, so really what is Melbourne, but a stinking rotten crime riddled city… I can not wait till get on the Western Freeway and get the heck outta here, this place really isnt European at all, its just a mass of buildings, I was talking with loads of backpackers of late and they all say the same thing, Australia is Sydney, Melbourne is not a tourist or holiday spot…

  46. Fully agree – Melbourne suffers from being the bottom of Australia and so removed from the rest of Australia that locals are comparing the city to Echuka. I was always surprised how many proud Melbournians had not ventured over the Murray. Chocolate box Australia is Sydney Harbour (not the environs) and the Queensland coast.

  47. The worst thing about Melbourne is it’s insular, parochial and annoying inhabitants. The nastiness that comes out of this city directed at the rest of the country ( pretty much every city that isn’t Melbourne) is a real turn off. Sydney of course being the main target of the insecure petty snipes. Obviously Sydney is a world famous global city and Melbourne lives in its shadow.

  48. Just got back from Melbourne. Dirty, poor planning,dull, snooty and smug. They think they are the capital of this and that, just because it makes themselves feel better about living in such a shit hole.A pretty terrible place with dreadful weather and an enormous insecure chip on it’s shoulder.

  49. Born in Melbourne been here my whole life, i am miserable here, the people are rude pigs, full of impatient dangerous drivers, scumbags everywhere and ice addicts, not to mention the public transport is over crowded, the roads are full of potholes, and it is generally not a nice place to live, cant wait to get out of this shithole!!!!

  50. So happy I found this! Was starting to think I was alone in hating this cesspit!
    My main issue with Melbs is the people, one thing that truly shits me about this place is whenever you point out a legitimate flaw with the city, Melbournians immediately slap you with that “most liveable city” crap and get all defensive, isn’t it funny how the people who talk so much shit about other cities get upset when people criticise theirs.
    Plus the people here are soo narrow minded, I’ve stopped telling people that i want to move to interstate one day because all they can do is crap on about how they think everywhere else is below Melbourne, pompous twats.

    • Ha! So true! We don’t tell too many people we want to get out either. All they do is emotionally manipulate us into staying (although right now, we are unable to get out anyway. Fuck poverty 😒). They crap on about how (deludedly) fabulous it is here and that “it rains more in Brisbane” like it is some kind of warning not to leave the cult. That’s precisely the drawcard we need to get out!

  51. I don’t like Melbourne I’ve been living here most of my life and its boringness and cold here there are much prettier places in Australia to live in.. That’s just my opinion though many people would disagree

    • * boring

      I also find that overall everyone seems so grumpy but when I visit other states people are warm and friendly. I don’t find Melbourne city at all inspring, and I agree that if your not into afl then you can feel completely left out its like a religion here. I do think there are nice suburbs around bayside and Elwood. But honestly other then that it is a very dull place to be in

  52. I came to Melbourne in 2002. I got married and had kids and have pretty much hated this city since i got here. It would be harsh to say there is nothing to do in melb but, there is nothing GOOD to do. AFL is utter garbage run by corrupt retards, Weather sucks but i could go on about that all day……and as for the shit box that we have to live in for the absolute fortune we have to pay for this place. I dunno about NSW but you have to almost sell your soul to buy property here. Most people are pretentious snobs who would steal your arse and make you sh1t through your ribs. So, for the city that absolutely idolises its criminals, I’m outta here.

    • Totally agree. I moved to Melbourne to work for Target Australia (the retail store) based in Geelong and Melbourne. Target has to be Australia’s worst employer and definitely represents what i hate about Melbourne. Arrogance, cockiness and people that are just generally difficult. The fact the company is going down the toilet is no surprise. If it was run out of another state people would be happier, turnover would be far lower and the business might actually be turn itself around.

  53. Had to come to Melbourne today from The Grampians region to pick up seafood @ Abbotsford 8am then Mud crabs @ Tulla 6pm…
    Aaaarrrggghhhh!
    Remember now why I avoid this prison of filth complete with insane druggy wastoids, foul tempered snob shop girls & demon drivers.
    So grubby, smelly, convoluted, stacked in, no flow, limited go, all for show.
    Oh btw you man bun beard wearing softo, the way of the hipster is down, down, down.
    Adelaide is weird… but at least it has real people, not facsimiles of such. Other Aussie cities are just that.. cities.
    They who exist herein, all hope hath been surrendered by them.
    But Melbourne, it is some piece of work!
    It’s all of Dantes circles in one great, metastatic, huge, pulsating, ever growing lump emanating from the centre of the Ultraworld.
    YUK

  54. I’ve been in Melbourne for 2 years… and I’m going nuts!!!!!!!!!!! I hate it. It’s an ugly place that they’ve tried desperately to dress up. I love the markets, but, that’s about it. Unfortunately, they really aren’t worth living here for. I’ve lived in 4 different places since I’ve been here and I can’t do it anymore. I grew up in Sydney, and it does suck. But, at least the weather is good and it’s easy to find somewhere pretty to relax and unwind, or at least live!!!

    I’m so over living in Melbourne. It’s really not a nice place to live.

    I’m out of here when my lease is up. Ewww, I hate it. I’m glad it’s not just me. I felt like I might be mentally unwell, but, I think it’s actually that this place is massively awful. I can’t wait to move.

  55. I’m from Boston originally and Melbourne reminds me of everything bad in Boston. I’ve met some wonderful people here, but a lot of people are snobby and rude (I especially love the people who hit your shoulder as they walk by). I’m trans, and for what is supposedly the LGBT capital of Australia, I’ve gotten quite a few comments and stares (no not good ones). I actually got less comments in Brisbane and I’ve been told not to go there because the people are “homophobic.”
    The hostel I’m staying in also decided to charge me more money than some of my roommates paying for the same nights. What a city!
    The public transportation is better than in Boston. But that’s like saying the dump I took today is better than the dump I took last night. The trains are what get me. I saw a train start to take off with the door open and the customer service people literally stood there and laughed. Called to complain about it and they still haven’t gotten back to me, so that train is still running. OH also, why doesn’t every train do the city loop? That’s standard in every Australian city I’ve been to besides Melbourne.
    As an American, I feel that I should at least listen to the AFL (I prefer sports on radio because I’m weird) but good luck finding them. Triple M says they air them, but turning on Triple M gives me crappy generic classic rock.
    I’m sure there is more but really the snobbery and the city is obnoxious. I can’t wait to leave.

  56. Confused city

    Melbourne is the industrial manufacturing base of Australia. That’s all it is. Now they have tried to reinvent themselves with a few sporting stadiums and marketing vertical dog boxes in the sky to attract asians with a high growth policy with the downside that congestion abounds. The weather is depressing and unpredictable. If you are a sport fanatic and need to go to a event every weekend then this place my suit you. Aesthetically it is not a beautiful city and is bland with no energy. The buildings are all black and grey just like the weather which makes it not very colourful. On first sight it looks like Chicago with high skyscrapers along a river. On closer inspection there is nothing European about Melbourne contrary to some who believe it has culture, fashion, food etc. it has a view pockets of nice food places with variety but so have other cities and is not unique , but the culture and fashion is a bit of a joke. There is none. Those are try hard comments and not justified. In 10-20 years the city will be majorly overcrowded and the city will suffer as a result. It apparently get’s a number 1 living ranking, however the basics such as a train to the airport do not even exist. They are still using a bus. The airport looks old and derelict. Even Beijing has a prettier airport with high quality train transport to the city. Trains here are 3rd world cattle carriages used by humans. It is rather backwards. The insecurity of the city is reflected by the response to any negative criticism to a local. A confident city will be objective and agree to both good and bad points about their city. Most Melbournians are country bumpkins who mostly have not lived beyond the Victorian border.

    • Country bumpkins? Like fuck.
      We country bumpkins are most outraged by this ill advised comparison.
      Melbournites are just that.
      They don’t leave Melbourne.
      If they ever venture beyond, into the actual hinterlands of Victoria or further , they are forced to realise that the delusional ideas of their own importance and sophistication are very clearly that.
      Delusional.
      Melbourne is a hick town, overrun with fugees, who are conversely the most interesting part of it’s subbacultcha!

  57. Melbourne does a great job at Marketing itself to the world. It is placed on a pedestal as a result. Once people come to Melbourne to live and experience it over time the cracks may start to appear depending on what you came here for in the first place. Many Melbournians have a self inflated perception of their city and are very critical of every other Australian city. This means that they are off course very insecure, hence the heavy marketing required to raise the profile of the city itself. Melbourne you either love or hate it. There is no grey or in between emotion for this city. It all depends on your point of reference and where you come from. If weather or beaches are not your thing and you like a few high rises and willing to learn a funny sport called AFL then it may be place you may actually like. Outside Melbourne in Victoria there are plenty of attractive places to visit. Unless you live within walking distance to the CBD and amenities of this city, you may as well live somewhere else in Australia. The city is bland and industrial with bizarre weather patterns. You need to have a strong immune system to handle massive weather variations per day. There is no stability in weather due to location of this city which is rather unique. The weather could be an attraction by itself where I have not seen a city with similar weather. It is very expensive and overpriced and quality of construction is very poor in workmanship. I’ve lived in houses in Africa that are better quality were weather is similar.

  58. Melbourne is an interesting place to visit for a first time tourist. Beyond that, as soon as you get out of the inner city 3-4km radius of the CBD, and into the suburbs where the vast majority of the population lives, Melbourne is just a vast urban wasteland where not much happens.

    The people and their attitudes are the biggest turn off – the constant boasting and bragging about their shit hole of a city, desperately trying to get the rest of the world to give a shit about them, totally ignorant to the fact that there are far more interesting places in the world to be, only suggests a deeply held insecurity about the fact that they are, after all, Australia’s second big city after Sydney. Which is why they resort to ratting on smaller cities like Adelaide and Perth.

    Oh, and the number of hipster lumberjack beards in that place, I’m sure you could burn them and power Geelong for a year. Get over yourself Melbourne, no one but yourselves gives a shit about you.

  59. cringe capital of Australia.

  60. Interesting city and a mixed bag. If you have lived outside Victoria for some time the chances you will stay long term are slim, but not impossible. If you are born within the state of Victoria you will most likely end up in Melbourne and become brainwashed that this city is the best thing since sliced bread. You will become oblivious to anything outside the state and live in a Victorian bubble and be very critical of everything outside Melbourne as you be me more ignorant the longer you linger around this city.

  61. Denise O'Meara

    No Bill, not all Victorians are as you cruelly describe. I do hate this shit, dull, bleak, nanny/,police state, soulless, cold (even in so called summer), but do not appreciate your comments about the class of morons who live here. Some of us have to live in this hell hole, through no choice of our own

    • Life is choice Denise old stick.
      Get out of Melbourne before you dessicate in the sheer, vast vacuum of hideousness that the liveable city truly is.

  62. There’s something in the fucking water in that stinking shithole town. They all have their heads stuck so far up their racist xenophobic asses it’s god damn fucking unbelievable. Hipster fucking morons, coffee culture snobs, cashed-up snobbish ass clowns, footy meatheaded shitsacks, mafia owns and runs fucking everything… Fuck off!! The city and it’s inhabitants are fucking toxic. The only nice people are from elsewhere originally, maybe Somalia or Eritrea- lovely people, alas, exiled by the amazingly ignorant racist fuckheads that live there, seeing themselves as anything but ignorant racist fuckheads, thinking themselves the center of the fucking universe. Fucking disgusting! City seems nice on the surface at a quick glance but has the worst human beings of any city in Australia and that includes the cemetery known as Adelaide.
    Do not go there. Go literally anywhere else. Baghdad. Aleppo. Medellin.

  63. The worst thing about Melbourne is the people. Other than Kiwis I have never encountered such insecure people who have huge chips on their shoulders just because they live in a city which is overshadowed by Sydney on the world stage. It’s always Melbournians who’ll say how much better it is in Melbourne. Melbourne this, Melbourne that. Sydney has a magnificent harbour that adds to its charm. Melbourne has no natural beauty so tries too hard to emulate a European city.

    • Lived in this miserable dump of a city for years!
      If you move here from interstate be prepared to NEVER make it into the clucky groups of Melbourne. They stick with their friends from the same school, go to the same colleges, wear the same clothes, you live breath and have to listen to AFL all day every day, what’s funny no one outside of Melbourne gives a shit. After a few months here you will start to live in the Melbourne “bubble” you will soon hate on every other city in Australia, in fact the world. You will re live the same events, same crap weather, same “institution” bars/restaurants. The crime is out of control, rapists, gangs, everywhere you look there is crap graffiti and a typical Melbournian will call it “street art”… Good luck renting or even buying a decent home there, a total dump located inner city will sell for $1m. People always look dark and not happy, the other true Melbourne people are old and pretentious, most people suffer from depression, or have severe drug and alcohol problems. The worst city for road rage, everyone is a maniac in their cars! I never rated the food there or their so called “coffee culture”. I have had better coffee in Brisbane and Perth! All of their cafes look the same, always older style bars and toilets and what an entry to the city, flying over a dark miserable farm into an airport that is a total shit hole.

  64. Left Melbourne in 1997 and relocated to the UK. Have visited three times the last time in 2010 not a pleasant city to live in now.

  65. Been in Melbourne for 5 months now… what a friggin shithole, overrun with boat people/refugees. Crazy ass drivers. Very hard to spot an actual True Blue Aussie down here. Came here for work reasons from Queensland, definately made a big mistake, word to the wise, if you’re coming from Queensland and thinking of a change don’t come here, unless you’re an art snob, career criminal or gay. This place must be taking over the gayest place in Australia title. If your a gay, criminal from Iraq and love art you’d do pretty well here, you could probably even run for Mayor of this cesspit.

  66. Just moved back to Sydney after being in this dump since Feb. Jesus it sucks. Boring and ugly as fuck, full of shitty pretentious hipsters who have nothing better to do with their time than sit a cafe talking philosophy or some wankery, while drinking their skinny soy chai single origin fuckin coffee and tying up their man-bun. Oh, the crappy freezing weather and wind so dry it sucks the life out of you. Everyone says it’s the “fashion capital of Australia” – WTF??!! Yeah, if you want to look like a walking, angry-looking corpse. They all wear head to toe black. Sooooo original. Parking inspectors are maniacs, no one can drive and everyone is smug and up-themselves, “oh, we went to the aaaart gallery and the theatrrrreeee”. Ugh. Best view of this dump is on the horizon getting the hell out.

  67. If you live in Melbourne and enjoy the great outdoors, there is simply nowhere to go. It’s a city purely for city people who think fun on a Sunday is a cup of coffee in a dingy street.

  68. Inward looking city requiring a heavy marketing budget to prop themselves up and create an illusion. On the surface it all looks great. Stay a while and look beneath the surface and you see something else. Once you reach this point, run for the hills as fast as you can!!!!

    • I agree, plus I hate the greyness ☹️ Can’t wait to leave I have one more year then I’m out

    • Agree, Melbourne excessively markets itself and it’s events. Horse race season is starting and there will be the regular build up to the overstated “Race that stops the nation”. However, it really only stops Victoria, particularly Melbourne public servants who get the day off, bogans in rented suits and race horse owners. Hardly a complete demographic of the nation.

  69. on wrong track

    Melbourne is a city of greedy top heavy developers who market the city to sell an illusion of high growth and pushes above it’s weight. Only maybe 1%-5% of the population takes part in this greedy behaviour to speculate. Outsiders are attracted initially and make the move and then become disillusioned, when the basics in services and human living deteriorate as the growth is not matched by adequate planning of services. The local government loves the tax payer slaves to pay he high cost of living in the form of taxes. Once greeds set into human behaviour complacency, recklessness, hubris and negligence takes over and this is the point at which it will end badly. The horse has already bolted. The city has some serious challenges and headwinds ahead. The law of cause and effect applies and nature will eventually cleanse the rot and we will have to learn the hard way.

  70. I’m a Canadian living in Melbourne (unfortunately) and I can assure you that compared to Canadian cities Melbourne is indeed a dirty, dreary, drab, run down, brown dump of a city. The suburbs are especially nasty- nothing at all like the green, leafy, manicured suburbs you generally find in Canada. Just a sea of drab, shitty brown brick homes and yards. The amount of anti social behavior is beyond belief- the graffiti, the littering, the vandalism, the drunken violence is far beyond anything seen in any Canadian city. The weather is absolutely horrible; public transport is third world; traffic is beyond a nightmare. the health care system is awful, and everything is sooooo expensive. A truly awful place.

  71. Not from Sydney, northern nsw, stunned by the Sydney and Adelaide hatng, but worse is the road behaviour, an ignoramus was blasting his horn at a new migrant and screaming obscenities out his window, so I went over, said calm down mate, it’s 3 seconds you’ve lost, I got the rest of his tyraid. Smiled and tried to engage with numerous people, came to the conclusion that every single comment above about melbawn is spot on, what an embarrassment this place is. Melbawn attitude does exist and the superiority attitude has me bafflee, it’s a shithole, for me Brisbane eats it up and spits it out. It doesn’t even rate with Sydney except as a migrant dumping ground and traffic capital. The reality and the illusion are miles apart.

    • Yep, got the tail end of abuse today myself from a druggie who’d spent his pension ( Melbourne has to be the capital of under 30’s on a pension. Pre requisite: being a lazy drunk or druggie) after I stood up for an older man he was raging at to give him money. Melbourne is bum/druggie central and panders to these low lives. Avoid at all costs.

      • I wouldn’t be so judgmental about people on pensions. Some of us have been trapped in the Melbourne abyss, through no fault of our own and with no key to escape.

  72. LOL, I live in Melbourne and have for 40 years. It was a nice city to live in…now, forget it. Its a boring and dangerous city. Constant reports of Home invasions by gangs gone wild with no fear of police or the law. Car jackings, a countless number of stabbings, gun realted violence is on the increase. Retails is crap now. All the great shopping strips are now just full of try hard cafes, too many fucking reasturants…and most are just passable. We have been overrun by international chain stores and there are shitty looking apartment blocks popping up as far as the eye can see. I am making plans to leave after living here all my life. People here are relatively friendly but fuck they are all sheep. Dont bother coming to Melbourne….it’s totally shit now

    • Melbinnnnnnn

      I live in Melbourne too and agree it’s total and utter shit.. There’s not much too add… other than agree with above posters – has got to be the most boring, overrated place

  73. I’ve lived in Melbourne for 40+ years. It’s a mean grey city full of mean-spirited self-important tossers. It must be the effects of the weather, which really is as bad as everyone says it is. As soon as I’m able to retire, I’m off to FNQ where I escape annually for a spell to get away from this place.

  74. I moved to Melbourne aka Gotham City earlier this year from Sydney, and this page and its comments are totally bang-on. If the endless winter and wacky weather doesn’t send you into a depression, the lousy transport (poor value-for-money with aggressive tram overpolicing) and people (cold and flaky at best) will drive you into outright aggression. I’ll be able to leave in three months, and am making a beeline straight back to Sydney. Sydney’s far from perfect, but at least it has better transport coverage (including an airport train, something Melbourne isn’t even close to building), a more-sensible ticketing system, and beautiful natural features. All the things that people say are “great” about Melbourne – food, art, culture – are man-made….and what man creates, man can re-create….

    One other observation – on this site’s Sydney page, there are only 3 comments from 2016. The Melbourne page has 30+ comments!! Let that one sink in, Melbourne cheerleaders….

  75. I really love this page, it totally sums up Melbourne in every possible way!

    Thank god we don’t have to live in this dump of a city anymore OMG what a miserable and stressful place to live. It bored the crap out of us, went to the same bars, same restaurants or they call them “Melbourne Institutions”, hearing Melbournians whinge and complain all day long about everything possible. I always wondered too, why do they brag about their dull and pathetic city oh it because they have to justify why they live there….

    Now we have moved away we now have to deal with them coming up to BNE. All they do is go on about how hot it is or we might have an occasional cloudy day and they complain because it is not perfect weather. Oh gee sorry about that Melbourne, it actually baffles me because they endure a year of cold and shit weather! So back to what I have to listen to whilst they are, every minute is constantly comparing MEL to BNE and to all of the other cities “Melbourne this Melbourne that” why don’t you just shut up and embrace other cities!!! They complain about how we don’t have this and “we don’t have and we don’t have that” it is bloody exhausting it has made me hate Melbourne even more because of these people and I now I look at them and think who do you think you are! I feel like telling them to piss off and go back if you think that BNE and SYD are that bad! It is like listening to a broken record, I also love it when they come to BNE or the Gold Coast they always have to have their noses in the air and sound like pretentious snobs and tell everyone that they are from Melbourne um who friggen cares!!!!

    Thank god we live up here now and don’t have to deal with that chaotic and depressing weather, horrendous traffic, AFL AFL AFL AFL AFL AFL AFL talk no one cares, constant crime, graffiti and gangs. Adios and all the best Melbourne and to those who live in its pathetic and boring bubble! We feel so much more connected to Sydney, Australia in fact the entire world again thank god we are out.
    We love BNE you are a beautiful and friendly city and keep doing what you are doing!

  76. Denise O'Meara

    Oh what a superb write up Allana! Couldn’t agree more with your comments. Have you got room for 1 more Melbourneite who loathes and detests EVERYTHING about Melbourne. if I HAD MY TIME AGAIN, I WOULD never LIVE IN SUCH A SHITFUL, MORONIC SMALL 3RD CLASS TOWN CALLED MELBOURNE

    • Thanks Denise, of course and I so hear what you are saying. It’s a shame as I never hear people from Perth or Sydney go on about how amazing they are or hate on every other city. They even compare their dark and dingy bars to what NYC and Europe has and I am like wtf! No way and never compare your city to these amazing international cities. It cracks me up to that they think they made places like Perth and Surfers Paradise like they influence these and mould these places lol! It’s only when I see them out of their Melbourne bubble, I think what a bunch of narrow minded morons. It’s a shame as it is so toxic and now that we are out we feel like we are finally living and a much better life. It might have been a good city back in the day but it has turned into hell. I hope you can move on one day too, life’s too short 😊

  77. Two months into spring and it still feels like winter, windy wet & miserable. Only people who grew up in Melbourne think the weather here is tolerable.

    • Vanishing man

      Or people who migrated from some insane hell-hole. Anything is better I guess.

      To be fair Melbourne is “liveable”. It has reasonable population size and is a modern functional city so there are jobs. Thus far it is reasonably affordable if you shop around.

      The trouble is it has many very annoying features. The most liveable??? No, sorry. Get real.

      The weather is just incredibly annoying, way too much of the time. AFL obsession is just incredibly tedious and everywhere, unless you are a brainwashed from birth true beleiver. The abundant cliquey weirdos, the pretentious plastic twits, the abundant scum bags and the criminals just grind down your faith in humanity. A lot of the city is an ugly eye sore.

      The winter is mostly a chilly solid grey downer that intensifies the grubby look of the place.

      There are too many drug-fucked ferals. Sooner or later one will cross your path and leave an indelibly shitty or scary memory.

      It is common to see faeces left on toilet seats in workplaces and public toilets. WtF??? People openly pick their noses and sneeze over everyone on public transport.

      The public transport is quite ubiquitous and I find it is quite easy to get around a lot or the city and metro surrounds. However, it has many annoying glitches. Train and tram drivers mumble incoherent announcements leaving everyone bewildered. The LED signs on trains or at train stations are too often totally misleading or just surreally F’d up. I feel sorry for visitors to the place.

      • Yeah agree. I’m pissed off but relieved to actually catch my plane after catching a train to flinders st in good faith that the fucking led sign was correct I.e express to flinders st from Moorabbin (moronabin) but to my horror it stopped at all stations. Do people who work in infrastructure in that shit hole actually give a fuck or are they so drug fucked that they don’t function at work. It’s such an annoying place.
        You often see people on TV in a remote part of the world being interviewed answering the interviewers question about where they are from with a proud ‘Melbourne’ in response – as if it is some internationally famous location like New York or Paris…vulgar .. or as if Melbourne is somehow above the station of Australia – why not just say Australia. Overseas people don’t give a fuck where you live in Oz. Shouldn’t identifying as simply Australian be enough because people admire you for simply being a citizen of this great country – excluding Victoria of course.
        I reckon melbourne should be bulldozed and all melbournians sent to Tasmania for rehab.

  78. Absolutely Melbourne which the most seriously-arrogant city in the world.Too serious.
    Serious Melbourians love Kmart and that’s probably all they know and living about.

    • Yeah if say it is the most liveable. Drugs are everywhere you can’t say it’s solely a Melbourne problem.. Melbourne is a great city!

      • Other cities you can get away from the druggies, in Melbourne they’re freaking EVERYWHERE!

  79. Number 1 if you have lived in a city hell hole previously. You just don’t know any better. Ignorance is bliss.

  80. Don’t bother with Swan Street Richmond(or Cremorne as the yuppy snob exiles from Toorak & Malvern call it). No genuine food shops left, all over-rated expensive yuppy cafes, with common over-priced shit, that could be bought in the CBD for half their asking price.The Greek cake shop on Coppin St, is over priced, only aimed at yuppies now. Dimmeys also now gone, replaced by Coles (sic..) Bridge Rd full of empty shops & druggies. When Vlado the restaurant owner died..a part of Richmond died with him..give Richmond & the rest of the City of Yarra a miss, no longer funky or cool, just full of junkies & dull phoney, provinvcial yuppies. Only this old school milk bar on Rowena St(near the MCG) seems the only ‘real McCoy’ eating place left in Richmond.(& the City of Yarra)

  81. Samantha Jayne

    Melbourne is such a disappointment to Australia!

    If you are from Melbourne and have never left Melbourne to actually see what else this country has to offer i suggest you do !!

    You will be surprised on how much you’ve wasted years fighting through drunken dickheads outside clubs and bars feeling a threat by them , living amongst filthy streets that smell of shit!, putting up with 4 seasons a day(with a occasional flooding every couple of months even in the middle of (Summer) where the city fills up of water and all the surige from the drains rise to the surface such as human feases and other diseases fill up in and around Melbourne streets/ outside your front doorstep , beaches and pathways so pretty much if there is a flood in Melbourne put on a pair of gumboots to prevent yourself from getting seriously ILL walking in shit with soggy wet shoes Yuck”!!!! To find parking in a common shopping centre that’s supposed to be the best shopping centre in the whole of Melbourne Chadstone is a freaking night mere around Christmas time the whole of Melbourne go here and drive around for hours fighting of car space how pathetic! And to even go to a half decent beach in Melbourne on the couple of days it’s actually hot you have to travel 1 hour out of the Melbourne to even go to a beach that’s half decent because the beaches close by are like a surage lake full of rubbish and who knows what”! The traffic the streets the trams the trucks to drive in Melbourne is one big fucking mess, so confusing and always congested everyday!!

    So get yourself out of this trash can city #Melbin

  82. I’ve lived in this hole for 25 years and somehow I’ll survive this place if I don’t get shot by a Sudanese criminal gang member and move north when I retire in 10 years; not sure if I can last here that long, in fact, there is no way I could. The locals are appallingly rude with an attitude like no other. The older Melbournians are absolutely vile.

    • True particularly people from around Kew, Balwyn and those areas. Middle class, full of themselves, pretentious and badly attempting to mimic their out of site upper class role models, who of course they’ve never met nor will they. Just pathetic and sad really.

  83. Melbourne has seriously gone to shit. It was shit when I left here in 2012. I’ve seen better airports in the third world. They have poorly attempted to mimic Sydney’s T1, T2 etc wtf has T got to do with whether you fly virgin Jetstar Qantas or tiger. It’s a miserable 500m walk along the facade to find your airline. Pathetic. No info people within cooee.
    The filthy Yarra ‘river’ where people aspire to live near.
    Residential developments over look railway networks.
    Everywhere you go someone’s got their hand in your pocket.
    The government is corrupt.
    The list goes on.
    I’m just glad to get the fuck out of there now.

  84. have you ever noticed when a vic is out of their shithole state they have to throw in that “they’re from victoria” in any and all conversations?
    NO ONE GIVES A FUCK. EXCEPT YOU, DICKHEAD!

  85. Dr David PHD

    Melbourne is becoming more & more like Chicago every day, a very mean, nasty hell hole of a city. My brother Stephen promotes this “Polish Modern” crap that’s passed off as award winning architecture. Sure lots of places overseas(especially in today’s Europe) are becoming worse, but Melbourne was total provincial colonial crap to begin with!

  86. Where on earth do they get this ‘coffee culture capital of the world’ nonsense from? I haven’t seen any coffee bean farms while driving out Melbourne so far. Do they mean coffee importing capital? Because I’ve yet to visit any other city in the world that dosnt have coffee shops.

    Wearing all black, drinking coffee and eating $26 bowls of spaghetti in a lanway cafe while talking about foreign films dosn’t make you cultured, it makes you pretentious. I’m almost bowled over backwards when one of these self-important wankers tries to compare Melbourne to NYC, Paris, Italy, or any other historic city with a real culture. Maybe Melbournes problem is that they spent so much time trying to emulate other cultures that they forgot to develop one of their own.

    I once heard someone describe street art as ‘distinctly melbourne.’ Yes, congratulations, you are the only city in the world with 16 year olds and cans of spray paint. Is that why you painted over a Banksy? Because you love street art so much? Or do you prefer whatever so called ‘artist’ tagged the word AIDS on the train I took to work this morning.

    As an Irish immigrant I can’t leave out that their beloved immigration museum is the most offensive thing I have ever seen. Going through reading the timeline of all the people/entire countries they banned from Australia is sickening enough, but the fact that they are so proud of it they made an entire museum celebrating it is depraved. Although I shouldn’t be surprised seeing how much they hate anyone not from Melbourne.

    Their cult of AFL would be fine if they didn’t feign horror when you mention you don’t follow it. They don’t seem to realise no other country in the world watches it. I didn’t hear many mentions of it in Sydney or Perth either so it dosnt seem to have even made it over the Victorian border, Yet I had it shoved in my face everywhere I turned in Melbourne. They’ve even built their stadiums right next to the city centre so god forbid you have to drive somewhere after a game has finished, sat in traffic for hours forced to watch heards of them in their team scarves and beanies breathing in their own smugness.

    God forbid you ever mention to someone from Melbourne that you weren’t that impressed and burst their bubble that the whole world is admiring them and their lack of a single recognizable landmark.

  87. The thing is Melbourne has always been 10 years behind Sydney. First visited 30 years ago and the place was basically Greek. Now being 10 years behind the unlivable Sydney that is choking on avarice and driving economic refugees south is not such a bad thing. Sure who cares about coffee, the point is Melbournians still find time to relax and drink it. Melbourne was built on a concrete slab and Sydney was built on paradise but the project of paving it to put up a parking lot continues apace. Melbourne may be bleak but its relatively civilised by global standards and the most civilised Australian metropolis (which, yes, isn’t saying much).

  88. Mmm, I think it’s fair to say Melbourne, with its somewhat laughable tag as “world’s most liveable city” that good ole is more likely “world’s most overrated city”. I come across this the other day an FB, that puts things into perspective, and also a but of a laugh. https://www.facebook.com/Opposing-everything-because-Im-from-Melbourne-1571492209530380/

  89. Mmm, I think it’s fair to say Melbourne, with its somewhat laughable tag as “world’s most liveable city” that good ole Melbourne is more likely “world’s most overrated city”. I come across this the other day an FB, that puts things into perspective, and also a bit of a laugh. https://www.facebook.com/Opposing-everything-because-Im-from-Melbourne-1571492209530380/

  90. Melbourne is a great place to come to top yourself

  91. You’re all so sad. Get a life

  92. I’ve lived in Melbourne my whole life and I hate it, I don’t like AFL or the weather, I personally think that Melbourne is the worst city in the world, and I can’t believe anyone who is under the delusion that Melbourne is the most livable city. Even my fellow Melburnians I can’t stand.
    If I had the chance I’d leave and never return to this hell hole.

  93. The most liveable city for criminals and gangs. Highest crime stat increases in the country, looking at implementing a NYPD, however at the same token it is ranked as the most liveable city in the world. If that is not a joke I don’t know what is. The judges must have been from Melbourne or paid somebody else plenty of money for a “feel good” story to keep it all under wraps.

    • The arbitors are the mag the economist intelligence unit and as expected none of the committee actually live in Melbourne. A bunch of office workers in a committee voted Melbourne tops, now there’s something to be really proud of.

  94. I grew up in Sydney, and have lived in Melbourne for the last 15 years. There is one simple huge difference which no one seems to talk about. It is summed up in one word: NATURE ! If you are interested in Australian nature, Sydney has a “great outdoors”; Melbourne does not. Sydney is surrounded by beautiful national parks, right on its doorstep, offering superb bushwalking and wildlife-watching, especially the fantastic native flowers and birdlife. To reach any decent national park from Melbourne, you would need to drive at least 3 hours from the city centre. All this beautiful nature overflows into the Sydney suburbs, which are much lusher due to Sydney’s higher rainfall. Melbourne’s dry suburbs and parks offer mostly European trees and a few introduced birds.

    Sydney has 3 major estuarine systems (Pittwater, Sydney Harbour, Port Hacking) giving it a stunning scenic coastline, and offering fantastic fishing, snorkelling, scuba diving, and boating. Of course the real surf beaches add to the nature experience of Sydney. None of this can be found in Melbourne.

    So, after you have had your fill of the Melbourne restaurants & cafes, and all the totally man-made entertainment that Melbourne is so proud of like coffee, laneways and graffiti, where do you go on a sunny day for a little nature soul food? Where can you escape to in less than an hour where unspoilt natural beauty is free? Nowhere.

    If you are not interested in the outdoors, then maybe Melbourne has what you want in a city. I am interested in the outdoors, so I feel trapped and bored to death in Melbourne.

    • Stuff the outdoors, It’s all about sitting in a cafe, looking out the window at some graffiti on a wall and thinking how wonderfully ironic it is. Only in Melbourne can one be so pretentious.

  95. Get fucked Melbourne, it is a city full of cunts

    • Couldn’t agree more Damo, I moved here from Perth for work and I can’t wait to get out. Weather is horrible which is maybe why the people are so horrible. Everyone is so smug and treat me like an alien cause I wasn’t born here. Funny thing is they have nothing to be smug about. One more year and I am outta here!

      • Melbourne is the best city in the world that’s why it’s been voted most liveable city 7 years in a row. So if you don’t like it fuck off back to Perth you bogan.

      • The truth hurts Melinda, aw diddums

    • AssymetricQWarrior

      Damo’s on it!
      Back Street Bitch is Back!

  96. I agree Melinda I love Melbourne

  97. DriveByHeckler

    That’s the standard welcome a visitor will get from Melbourne.
    Most livable city voted by a panel from the economist, Melbourne is dream land for accountants, nuff said.

    • The most livable illusion, where all of your money is taxed leaving you with peanuts, in an environment where you see no improvement to infrastructure and a lack of entertainment for all of those taxes paid. Usually wasted on insignificant and trivial shit. Over it.

  98. Melbourne was once an incredible place to live but now it is a dirty, overpriced shit hole full of disgusting Chinese cunts and other fucking retard parasites from developing countries. The city has been ruined by rampant immigration and will never be the same.

    I can’t wait to get the fuck out.

    • you wont be missed with that attitude

    • It’s the natives that have turned Melbourne into the bum, druggie, entitled CAPITAL of Australia. Only decent place so far I’ve found is Carnegie thanks to the amazing hardworking and friendly Asian/Indian majority and absence of loser waster ‘locals’ harassing and abusing people for money.

      • I noticed this when I was unfortunate enough to live in that other hell hole Sydney The Asians/Indians I met were decent and softly spoken people. The rest… not so much.

  99. Went to Melbourne for the spring racing carnival expecting a classy, glamorous experience but the reality was far from that! The day (derby day) was an absolute disgrace, I have never seen so many messy, drunk lunatics in my life. Throughout the day I saw multiple woman falling over from being drunk, many fights between the men and far too many public urination displays. The group of men in front of me were using a champagne bottle to urinate in, GROSS! So much for a classy event, starting to think Melbourne is all talk… maybe the only way to enjoy the day is to be rich enough to get into the birdcage away from the animals in the public arena. Think I will head to the Sydney racing carnival next time or even the Gold Coast or even Brisbane races.

  100. I was told Melbourne was a classy and cultured European like city. I’ve even heard some bizarre claims by local Melbournians that their city is the “Venice of the South”. As a European immigrant to Australia, I can see very little resemblance to anything European.I would say Melbourne is more like a little London, full of try hard rednecks and country bumpkins trying to be something they are not. A big overrated disappointment.

  101. jAKHfkhskjh

    prefer sydney, at least its not trying to be something it isn’t

  102. at least Sydney is mature and independent enough and does really care what others think. Melbourne is the opposite and puts on a front that is fake trying to be something it is not.

  103. Melbourne has a high suicide rate. It is a depressing and highly corrosive place.
    The stats are kept remote. The Westgate bridge used to help desperate Victorians to “leave”. Barriers are now there.
    Melbourne calls tagging with a spray can “art”.
    The city has an abundance of crap “art”.
    Food is prepared by “artists” that are nothing more than gluten-free idiots that serve overpriced hipster cuisine. (Smashed avacado on (gf) toast?….$20) No! On a PLATE please!
    Don’t ever ask for a coffee with milk! NOT in a jar thank you…
    You must have what looks like a high school laboratory experiment.
    Paris end of Collins street…ffsake! Just endless hipster BS…I was in new York etc…
    What’s with the relentless alt country/Americana music?? Awful…

    You can get decent coffee just about anywhere in australia.

    Seasonal affective disorder has devastated many that have an existance here.
    It is literally a funnel that pulls in relentless spitting clouds over it.
    If you like natural environs you have to travel hours to leave the endless, shitty, grey speccled and expansive suburbs. Traffic pollution in the form of airborne particles are found in your home. Clean it and in 2 weeks its all back again.You will pay exorbitant tollway fees too. Be prepared for traffic snarls/road rage etc., melbournians don’t know what an indicator is for, or how traffic merges..
    Rudeness is what many Victorians think is an aspect of being “cultured”.
    The whole grid pattern layout of the city is NOT magnetic NORTH/SOUTH. This makes navigating the place difficult.
    The yarra river and creeks are full of stolen and dumped rubbish….shopping trolleys, bicycles.

    St kilda and Elwood is full of syringes. Bayside inhabitants are amongst the most horrible on the continent. Shit floats around these bayside ” beaches”.

    Crime is all over the place, shops and even larger retailers will try to rip you off. Don’t leave anything outside (including a car)

    To be fair most non-anglo people are good/OK there. Many white Victorians are horrible!
    Melbourne is an incredibly BORING city!!
    Its people are very conservative.
    Because its such a boring city, many Victorians get into retail therapy. Alienating shopping architecture experiments, such as chadstone, provide meaningless retail excursions for the masses.

    I think almost all of the negative accounts of melbun here are accurate.

    Adelaide craps all over the place.
    Sydney craps all over the place.

    Goodbye melbun. Piss off.

    • Melbisadump

      Can’t wait until I get to say goodbye to this rancid cesspit, it’s been 15 years TOO long here.

      • Melbourne is beautiful I’m sorry but this is a stupid article and the comments above are just pathetic, move to Sydney if your not happy lol

  104. A flat bland concrete jungle where trees have been removed with limited nature may be beautiful to some while a harbour, with nature and water/beaches is beautiful to others. It is all relative and just your own tastes/ opinions that matter. By no means is Sydney perfect but I prefer it to Melbourne.Sydney is an international outward looking city where most of the time can be spend outdoors with stable warmer weather throughout the year. Melbourne is a provincial inward looking city mainly spend indoors due to the erratic high/cold weather fluctuations.

  105. Looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland but tourists are surprised to find out that it hasn’t yet been part of a nuclear war. Locals say its great though as it has teams in sash uniforms kicking around a ball… and well, that’s about it. Membership of an AFL club seems to be compulsory and number around 30,000-50,000 per team! and there are about 10 of them in Melbourne. Is there really nothing else to do?

  106. It's really that bad

    Best thing about melbourne is the westgate bridge in your rear vision mirror heading north
    Its an absoulote shit hole over populated crime ridden dogs breakfast
    I hate the place and everything about it
    Oh yea and play spot the aussie good luck

  107. Cunt of a city built for cunts

  108. Relocated to Melbourne about a year ago from Nottingham (probably the UK’s worst chav/crime city). The winter in Melbourne actually felt more depressing than the UK, most likely because beer is way too expensive here and there are far too many people desperately trying (and desperately failing) to be cool hipsters. The locals here almost speak the same language (unless you telephone a call centre or visit Subway), but that’s where it ends. Apart from some very nice old buildings and very good fish and chips further south, sadly, Melbourne is a huge disappointment. World’s most liveable city? I don’t get it; it simply isn’t true. Even grotty old Nottingham tops Melbourne in terms of entertainment and likability.
    The few local Australians that I have met, and they seem very far and few between to be true, are generally OK, but seem to be under the strange illusion that everything in Melbourne is the BEST IN THE WORLD: coffee, water, food, beer, beaches, coffee, coffee, coffee etc etc….it’s NOT true.
    Sorry folks – I really wanted to fall in love with Melbourne 😦

    • Sorry to hear your disappointment with Melbourne but at least you have only wasted a couple of years. Melbourne is not actually part of Australia thinks it is just outside Paris or Milan but its more like Milton Keynes without the good weather. Head north to Queensland at least the weather won’t annoy you do much.

      • Why tf when you press read further does this stupid user unfriendly site take you to some irrelevant article ..I was so looking forward to reading the last of your post!
        Yeah Cheers

    • Now I have added a comment, it takes me to your post … for fucks sake.. I dare not assume it’s maintained by a malbawnian

  109. robert burgos

    I use to live in Melbourne but now reside in Perth. I remember Melbourne to be a really fun place with lots on offer. I have family over there and visit at least once a year. In all honesty the place has turned into a third world shit hole (thanks to left wing government dominating the place). Rubbish every where u go; mattresses dumped on verges etc. The place is full of third world people from India and all the various other shit-holes who have no understanding of what it is like to live in a decent environment. So sad that the Marxist fuck heads have succeeded in destroying the place and bringing it to its knees.

  110. Perth & Melbourne share one thing in common-both of their Packer owned Casinos suck and are totally rigged and extremely boring and the security(AKA bouncers) are total thugs!!!

  111. Criminals in Melbourne become celebrities and there is a real class divide the self proclaimed upper class act like oligarchs

    • My biggest issue with Melbourne is the ppl are very pretentious and totally up themselves, ignorant and vile. The amount of ppl I hate here isn’t funny, u can be really nice to them the u will be stabbed in back.. Rubbish ppl in this city.

  112. I moved here from Europe 16 years ago and need to stay medicated in order to not commit a suicide.

  113. A provincial inward and ignorant state with the worst weather in Australia that is inhabited by very insecure people who only follow a sport called footy like a fanatical cult. A city that is overrated with look a like USSR style concrete buildings where nature has been replaced by a series of concrete buildings.

    • Visiting friends in Melbinistan. Wow. The social fabric has changed big time. Two thirds of the people whilst I was out were from the sub continent. It explains the bad driving and the rubbish strewn along the road. If I want to live in India Id move there. Sadly the local anglos are even worse and so rude. Ive read the bulk of the comments here which are spot on and its the angryness of Melbinistan which is most notable in shops and on the road. Tail gating and cutting people off is a sport. I reply with. Whats afl. What a load of carry on that is. It explains why Melbinistan has the worst crime rates and African gangs. Other cities have Africans without the issues. Even Sydney is far safer. I cannot fathom the weather. Just a dull mediocre place at best and no longer real Australia.

      • Social ladder

        The neo social order, is a country town club, whereby it is all about your behaviour and how much money you have or if you are one of them. Perpetuated by the bogan-hippies who have taken Melbourne and it is all about achievement these days here. Full of people who are trying to climb the social ladder. Who do not understand those who think differently and have different ideas. Will even mock you. These dickheads have the nerve to say that if you call yourself alternative or bohemian then you are pretentious, but these people are utterly hypocritical. Microscopic minded, cynical, think they know everything and pompous gits from the countryside.

      • Social ladder

        It is part of these people’s for world control and domination. Who are Satanist bogan hippies. Worse than mediocre it is the longest running nanny state Melbourne. No thanks to the hipsters.

      • Social ladder

        It is a good place to do nothing to do with your life. Unless you are willing to completely comply. Melbourne is most probably an experimental base for the American CIA. Where Europeans restrict you from doing what you want with your life as they see themselves as being superior to you.

  114. I was born and raised in Melbourne, and the best thing this city has is an Airport to get out of it. The communist state government egged on by inner city greenies and controlled by the Union structure has provided a thriving dystopia for crime, gangs, socialist councils, and that clumsy rubbish that the local alcoholic bogan thinks is important, i.e. AFL.

    • Brilliant summary John, of this 3rd rate town. You have echoed my thoughts about this shithole, just as brilliantly.

    • IamTheEggman

      Having had the misfortune of being born and raised in this cunt of a city me and my mates only half jokingly refer to as Melbournistan,your analysis of this shithole should be a travel warning on TripAdvisor for the unwary visitor. Pretentious hipster wankers,latte sipping snobs and nanny state restrictions on everything short of Oxygen from Green dominated councils…perhaps Comrade Dan can convince his union stooges to build a wall around the city and offer one way tickets to Hobart?

  115. Born and raised outside Australia. Lived in Melbourne for 1.5 years and had to throw in the towel and leave. Could not connect with this city in anyway. People have an extremely high opinion of their own city and dislike every other city in Australia. In general they deserve to live in this city since many are small minded insecure footy die hards. In a nutshell they do have an attitude problem. The weather is dismal and cold. It is just one big concrete jungle with little green nature or any high quality beaches. The have a big pond called the port Phillip Bay and a dirty yard river. Other than that they brag about their coffee and try to emulate to be a European socialist model and on the surface all looks great until you see what lies beneath the bonnet. It is not pretty. The city is restless and lawless with crime running rampant. It is moving to be more similar to cities like Detroit since their manufacturing base is and has been evaporating over many years. The state of Victoria is much prettier and diverse.

  116. I fucking hate Melbourne weather for three quarters of the year. Would move North but my partner doesn’t want to leave friends and family behind. Fuck Melbourne weather. And fuck AFL. Fuck rugby, cricket, soccer, tennis and golf while you’re at it. Sports fans are neanderthals.

    • I’ve been visiting Melbourne on and off for past few months. I cannot agree more with the majority here. The city doesn’t have much to offer. It feels like the only things to do here are sitting in a coffee shop and drinking the same coffee that you could drink in other parts of the world or eating average tasting food.
      From european tourist perspesctive, the city just doesn’t have anything to offer for international visitors. Public transport is comparable with those in some eastern European countries or even worse. The airport is a joke as well. Not only is it not well connected with the city, but also it can’t handle the masses. Security check takes forever. Before my first visit I was very excited and expected a lot. But hey one should never expect too much otherwise the disappointment will be only bigger.

      • I forgot to add. People on drugs or drunk are everywhere. I also think Australian government should also seriously start looking for solutions how to help the homeless. I have visited many cities in different kinds of countries. Homeless are everywhere in Melbourne which is shocking. Where are the social services?

      • In Tokyo even the homeless people have jobs to go to. They create jobs for the sake of creating jobs because the governent actually cares about the common man. The public transport system is first class. The cost of living is cheaper. There are far fewer idiots driving cars because license course is extensive and strict. People in general are much more courteous and polite. I already hated my home city, Melbourne but after going abroad I think it’s even more of a toilet than I did before..

      • robert burgos

        I think Melbourne teaches us all a great lesson: that socialism doesn’t work. We should all be thankful to Melbourne in that regard.

      • The kind of mentality I would expect of your typical shit-for-brain Melbournian

  117. You mean the zombies on drugs, drugs are everywhere in Melbourne. Pro-corporation, pro-thoughtless, pro-yuppy, pro-unquestioning, formulaic boredom. But they insist on everything being as boring, and fucked-up as possible. Just like the zombies on drugs who do not care. Unconscious roving, that they can dominate and retain it like that. Just with a bit more infrastructure. Cold people who do not care in democracy. Think they know better than you, hence you have no rights or say.

    • You mean the zombies on drugs, drugs are everywhere in Melbourne. Pro-corporation, pro-thoughtless, pro-yuppy, pro-unquestioning, formulaic boredom. But they insist on everything being as boring, and fucked-up as possible. Just like the zombies on drugs who do not care. Unconscious roving, that they can dominate and retain it like that. Just with a bit more infrastructure. Cold people who do not care in democracy. Think they know better than you, hence you have no rights or say. Of how morally upright they think they are when they take your autonomy away as a citizen. As they know best and they know everything according to them. And apparently it is for your own good. Of why you have not been corrupted or cynicised as they have been in such a cesspool. In somewhere so Keynesianly classist.

  118. In Melbourne and losers. The unemployed and homeless are losers from the deal. People that are permanently such as myself are losers, they won’t give any chances to. We are subhuman, the guttertrash of Calcutta, who are more decent and honest than many of the people who ride high in the place, who are remarkably petty and self-righteous, superficial and catty, smug. For the petty feel no shame I wrote in a poem in the 90s.

  119. Then there are the middle-class girls goes to school with, that she views with condescension at times. From the outer metropolitan areas her school mates are from.

  120. The only reason Melbourne has not gone the way of Europe is the people are so complacent in Melbourne.

  121. Facts of Life in Melbourne

    And why would it change as there are people getting rich off the scheme of things in Melbourne such as the Borghesie, criminal kingpins, councils, bureaucrats and politicians.

  122. Facts of Life in Melbourne

    I forgot to add the a hole managers and corporates and the autocratic regime that runs the city. Despots incorporated no it’s not very exciting.

  123. Facts of Life in Melbourne

    Land of liberty, best city in the world. It depends what you define liberty, which is very capital defined in Melbourne and whether you are employed to begin with. You’re right to be permanently poor or unemployed with no chance of a future unless you are affluent. What they think is best for you. But they are bizarre people they think you will kill yourself with heroin. Because as a genuinely poor person in Melbourne whose decent you are a lower human-being. Amplified by its tryhard American nature of the place.

  124. Liberty lost

    Enforced conventionality and conformity. Reinforced by the country town rednecks who rule with an autocratic fist.

  125. Liberty lost

    They are trying to do something in Melbourne it is called stripping-away your liberty. And then trying to convince you had any right to it. And what a pipe-dream that would ever not be the case. There is always agenda’s in Melbourne and the people are so self-righteous that they are a pain and annoying. That only the most questioning people realise this and see-straight-through-it. But the people have so much to lose from admitting the truth and bending and getting rid of their agenda’s. Me and my friends realise there is no democracy and it is boring. You think it’s democratic in Melbourne if you were a redneck.

  126. Liberty that never was

    Some people are freer than others apparently in Melbourne.

    • Liberty that never was

      The scum of the earth criminals have things in public housing before our best friend in Melbourne. Office workers think it is democratic in Melbourne. Melbourne not for the poor or needy. What is your office workers idea of democracy when they gang-up together.

  127. Liberty that never was

    In hipsters paradise.

  128. Liberty that never was

    What in essence is extremely right-wing forced employment, Melbourne style capitalism and elitism, corporatism, an unquestionness.

  129. Liberty that never was

    There dumb and smart, therefore some are born smart others dumb. Particularly the people are rebellious and unconventional are the dumb. Whereby the conformists are the supreme of intellect who go along with the status quo in Melbourne.

  130. Liberty that never was

    Because the people who are complaining and criticising Melbourne. Must not be integrated in the place. Therefore you must be dumb. And you have not successful then you must not be integrated into Melbourne society. Which is apparently what you want to be in Melbourne. I have not seen any democracy in Melbourne I have not seen it. Then if you are bothered by their aggressive bullying amplified by the fact they are drugs. Then you must be emotionally unstable then you must be dumb. Which I believe is the bizzarre trip hence the abuse and bullying. By the pretentious boring elitists who are mostly are hippies.

  131. Liberty that never was

    Do not mention anti-establishment it is the biggest swear word. Or the so-called Christian hippies who work for the private. Will be out there with soap as you must be maladjusted and not integrated into their society and that has to be stopped. The correctional officers that they are.

  132. Liberty that never was

    Hippies the biggest control freaks of them all. What do you expect from people from suburbia.

  133. Liberty that never was

    What if you do not want your liberty and autonomy taken away. Well they will yank as they can to grab it. They ultimately want your soul and that they desire to steal.

  134. Liberty that never was

    The thought-police are always in force in Melbourne these days. Often with colourful hippy or bland yuppy attire.

  135. Liberty that never was

    The only way they can retain their power in Melbourne is through utter control of the place and being domineering. Henceforth the oppression of the poor and peddling of drugs. And being remarkably deliberate and choosing things rather than allowing things ever occur randomly or spontaneously. Rather than anyone to do things it is incredibly formulaic and controlled therefore.

  136. Liberty that never was

    There is no democracy in Melbourne, why because there are people in the place with money and power.

  137. Routinely the middle-class people and hippies who run the place patrol the institutions and streets who are the thought-police. Who judge things by your test scores and grades were to dictate what your career will be. Aiming to stamp out all individuality or any hopes or dreams you have. Who are extremely superficial to put you in your place. And have you obey.

  138. This ain't democracy: bird crumbs for the pigeons

    You hear about how supposedly democratic Melbourne is pushed by the economic intelligence unit. But the thing is it is a rumour. There is no democracy unless you are an office worker, criminal, wealthy or bland empty soulless clone, or maybe one of the shopkeeper. The poor they are lucky if they can obtain work, or have a future or career. Especially if they have been long term unemployed. The dick-heads who run the place are heartless, hard-nosed, cynical, nasty know it all types who are extremely superficial pricks. Only if they think you are winner the underdog goes no- where in Melbourne.

  139. This ain't democracy: bird crumbs for the pigeons

    But they repetitively remind you that Melbourne is not there for the poor. Especially the decent poor. If you are poor you have gruel and no-where to go in hipsters paradise. Based on how you seem so do not express emotions or show vulnerability or you will be punished savagely. Everyone is to preyed on whose seen as an easy target. The genuinely gentle fit into that category. Which by the way is not the hippies. Whose motto is the meek will inherit the earth. Which is why they are so domineering in Melbourne.

  140. This ain't democracy: bird crumbs for the pigeons

    By the neurotic control freaks who run this city. Their neuroticness only intensified by the fact on their drugs. They are so drugged they want everyone to be like them or else. Who magical solution to life is to be middle-class and are extraordinarily pushy about it. Neurosis of them so remarkable that they will bully about it. These rednecks that run the place are intolerant. And they just don’t understand why people would not want to be or are not the same as them and be middle-class. With the obvious power that it brings them. The power that they abuse. Why they children are put in positions and who think are sufficiently bright to each professions. It is most undemocratic but they do not care. Unfortunately they are hippies. They have an old-fashioned view of the poor which is Keynesianly. Who are most condescending to in every way.

  141. This ain't democracy: bird crumbs for the pigeons

    Whose biggest fear there being democracy in the city. Pro-americanism, and everything is forced down your throat vindictively. Because these people are neurotic control freaks. In a way of genuine democracy, humiliate, shout you down, war of attrition. Kind of what you would expect in a nation that was not democratic. Try erase opposing opinions, promote patriotism then they say they hate communism. Is capitalism the same as democracy?

  142. Of the thought-police correctional officers.

  143. Whereby debates such as who creates society and reality besides the people when they are members of authority in this is to profound for many in this city.

  144. Or what is life and death again too philosophical for them.

  145. I have had to put up with relentless bullying in a University in Melbourne. So has my nephew in high-school. The authority in Melbourne is useless. They are accusing my nephew of being the culprit I know them. The tremendously conceited people who run Melbourne there is no democracy in it. They won’t fix our best friends door in public housing.

  146. Worst thing about Melbourne is the people.

    AFL obsessed, sport obsessed, narrow minded, insecure country bumpkins.

    Its incredibly middle class. Full of smug, pompous, pretentious, arrogant people. People here are lazy, jealous and insecure.

    • Will be happy to be home

      The worst thing about Melbourne is the elitist dickheads who are trying to climb the social ladder who are doing it deliberately.

      • Will be happy to be home

        Melbourne is full of from what I can gather from friends, what I have read from Julian Assange about their programming course. American CIA agents, rich people who have murdered people and got away with it because of the plutocratic nature of the place. Rich people. Government officials from foreign countries from what I have seen on the news. Criminals many Maffia of various nationalities, working class people who are a holes, middle-class people who are scumbags. Rich people who pretend to be not rich. All of it makes Melbourne not very democratic. Moving to Melbourne was one of but probably the worst thing to happen to me as a teen-ager. Am glad to be out, apparently some advantage to living in Melbourne, as if you are more likely to succeed here, and you are more intelligent by default of living in Melbourne even if the evidence is to contrary. Melbourne is a third-world country whereby the people do not rights and opportunities afforded to everyone except for the rich that you would have anywhere else. Anything you say and do will be used against in the court of plutocratic dinosaur bureaucracy and injustice that is Melbourne. Run by the plutocratic zombies new age hippie assholes of Melbourne who have become authoritarian yuppies who run the place who do not really care about or know what real democracy is and probably never will. Glad I do not live here anymore. Punk is hating the poor, rape is common and outright abuse in Melbourne is widespread on a variety of levels. I so much want my licence to live they won’t give it up and here I sit on the world’s edge trying to break in. But the sight of it all makes me sad and ill. Some wierd sin that’s what I get sitting out on the edge. Words of Iggy pop, I am sure Iggy pop was referring to the hippie establishment at the time, who are extremely abusive, pompous, just won’t let you, and are controlling which is funny as that is what Melbourne is like. Can you do the dog. Wishing someone would give me some energy. Again I think Patty Smith is talking about the incredibly abusive hippie establishment at the time. They can’t hurt you now. Melbourne is the pretentious hippie asshole capital of Australia these days.

    • The worst thing about Melbourne is everything!

      The worse thing about Melbourne is more than just the incredibly controlling, insular, judgemental, tiny-minded, vindictive people. The worst thing about Melbourne is everything. Read the comment below.

  147. Why does everyone (esp “Melburnians”) get so personally offended if you say you don’t like the place? Like they personally and single handedly built the fucking joint? For fuck’s sake. “Oooh you don’t like Mellbbouurnne, I mean, it’s aaaamaazziing, how could you not like it.”

    No it’s not, it’s a shithole full of pretentious cunts at the arse end of the world. Glad I don’t live there anymore.

    • Wishing I was not here right here

      Melbourne is incredibly supercilious and pretentious. It is full of people who are either rich have wealthy friends or family to look after them. Or they well connected gen y brats who have their parents or their friends or people in authority to help them. Leaving those who do not have such advantages at a disadvantage. You are expected to do things as quickly as possible, in life here. The bastards here are as condescending as can be. They want to make the next gen which own and run things. It is called inheritance and expectations of the people in Melbourne. Most of them are pretentious a holes who want to push you aside or out of the place so you can not get anywhere in it. Hence their comments are remember them. Melbourne is a deliberate plot by a bunch nasty think they know everything. It is a power game here by a bunch of people who want to obliterate you, render you irrelevant according to what they think of you. It is a bunch of status obsessed mega pretentious people who are way too controlling who are utter fakes to try and render you invisible and a nobody as they have a big tall poppy syndrome. Truly Melbourne Melbourne I think was always funny clicky place but I personally its reputation for being classy means Melbourne attracts many fake/hypocritical/pompous people due to this. The people who sell the local service station who owned it to begin with, only use foreigners as cheap labour would not give others a fair go and if they ever did there was so much pretentious non-sense because the people here think they are smart-asses. This is an extremely undemocratic pretentious status obsessed hole full of people who want to reduce people like me into being the underdog and their status-obsessed into being king with the only way they know how which is with either prejudice money or both. Which is why they are so dog eat dog. They are about as arrogant and insincere and abusive as they come. They are foolhardy they are cocky they talk with a silver tongue and they are extremely undemocratic. Plutocracy is democracy in Melbourne Australia thanks to the new age hippies turned yuppie. This society is a game a well organised game whereby all the people who know each other gang up with each other and gossip decide others fate. Nothing here but inferior exhibition spaces to the rest of the country, a port, an outdated sporting field, stadium, shabby hospital system. Organisations run by so-called Christians who are about getting rid of people like me and giving other young people leadership roles. us versus you thing is Melbourne.

      • Wishing I was not here right now

        Brain-dead pompous cold-blooded, cold-hearted moron capital who are utterly selfish and irresponsible and think it is smart to be like that, immature, egocentric, cruel and they think that is smart thanks to the superficial morons new age hippies turned yuppies.

      • Will be happy to be home

        Normality is non-existent in Melbourne thanks to the superficial people who are heartless and foolhardy morons. Shallow unquestioning morons who are all about working and making money.

      • Will be happy to be home

        Normality is non-existent but you have to look below the surface sometimes. From the nasty wierdoes with us versus you who want to be king of the world typical hippie style or dictator depending on what you want to call it. Its bohemian but it is not pretentious to be obsessed with money power and status obsession and immaturity and overbearingness is not pretentious somehow.

      • Will be happy to be home

        Whose idea of sophistication and culture is speaking with a silver tongue, being cold-blooded and cold-hearted and nasty and condescending but well-behaved, heartless. Or immature, bullying, overbearing with both of them being cruel dropping nasty or abusive comments. Rather they want to see you on the ground. Some of the other people I am unimpressed by and have different combinations of the aforementioned traits such immaturity and good behaviour. Free city it is not.

      • Will be happy to be home

        When the fucked-up illogical pompous aire-faire cynical rich brat morons who are complete pretentious scumbags and control-freaks pretending to be otherwise scrawl on walls shit like dream destroyer around the commission flats. It reminds me of how undemocratic Melbourne is. If you can turn your dreams into reality, it is because you either have money, to begin with, or they think you are great, either way you are always dealing with bias and other people’s decisions opinions biases of you. Control freaks, it is full of. For somebody as democratic, egalitarian, logical, reasonable, civilized, altruistic, with not one ounce of superficiality, this place is hell, intolerable and filth. Who thinks that people should be able to do what they want with their life, have choices regardless of their socioeconomic status this place is filth. What it represents is pretentious non-sense as a way to control people, prejudgment by the many ugly people in the place. Melbourne is not democracy unless you consider it a right to be permanently unemployment, picked on by the heartless and vindictive morons and to have no way out, by the pretentious people who want to keep you at the bottom of this society. You have to remember it was one of the forms of punishment for them to take away the Jews right to run business. That kind of economic control is normal in Melbourne for citizens here the most vulnerable who do not want to do what these pompous fuddy duddies want them to. The types of control extend beyond business and it’s often vulnerable people such as myself. Not that these pompous a holes would fathom what I have just said. Melbourne is a form of fascism based on good behaviour like something out of the nineteenth century. I lived here for years, I found Melbourne to be incredibly undemocratic and frustrating. As a person who wants to do the right thing. I was at disadvantage being on my own. I suffered much rejection especially if I should dare do anything independently. I guess it is because most people are either ex-bikies, ex-new age hippies, rich people and other people who are far more competitive than I am. What you would call an exercise in futility. I am a person of reason not a competitive, with very little superficiality, pretentiousness or arrogance who is also very caring and responsible. Not a very high opinion of my own work very little vanity underneath it. Very little interest in the social ladder social status look at me I am media star I think I am a god. Whose not the tiniest bit superficial or pompous or arrogant. That makes me an anomaly as far as most of the population of Melbourne is concerned these days. Are very down to earth and this place is a hole. Full of feckless egocenteic dickheads who have no compassion and think they are a god and are so pretentious they are actually defensive if you comment on their arrogance they disregard that as being irrelevant, and just about anything you say they dismiss. I can not wait to be back home. Arrogant hippie assholeville.

      • Will be happy to be home

        Generation X ‘they said we were stupid.’ the dead Kennedys chicken shit conformist like your parents what has ripped us apart even more than drugs are the thieves and the god damn liars. Its competition man we want to break big. So that we can compete again and again. Till all we have is a closed-minded self-centred social club. Then there is the stranglers ugly. Only the children of the fucking wealthy are going to be good looking. Awfully like Melbourne these days. I hold that the people in Melbourne these days are the reason the Punk movement happened to begin with. Joe Jackson people made me so bad. People made me feel like giving up trying. Melbourne full of abusive rich hippie criminal fucks these days that are tryhard vindictive pompous pricks.

      • Will be happy to be home

        I hold that these horrible people are a poor imitation of what Punk is? And I will be happy to be home.

      • Will be happy to be home

        How the world operates is out of the book of self-righteous, judgemental, new age hippie manual.

      • Will be happy to be home

        I am calling out an SOS. Melbourne.

      • Will be happy to be home

        I feel I have been cheated in this place. I want to be to be free and I want a fair go. And I left I realised you will never have that in Melbourne without pretentious non-sense.

      • Will be happy to be home

        For an extremely democratic fair person I hate Melbourne. Who is not very competitive, and does not have a huge amount of judgement says why are you not allowed to things that way and anything but controlling or authoritarian says why can not do things that way here. That is the way things are done xtc.

      • Will be happy to be home

        If I was more competitive than I was Melbourne would be a prospect for me. But it is in the too hard basket, when even though there is nothing wrong with me I can not get work or anything else in the place. The non-sense arguments that things being so hard in the place somehow make things superior in this place which is non-sense and all the other pompous rot in this place. It just means that somebody like myself who is able to do anything is denied a livelihood and an existence as they are as tight as can be here. Some of the best exhibitions I have seen are ones that would have been snubbed in the past. If you are extremely competitive Melbourne is the place to live. High grades in school and endless exhibitions then you will make it as an artist here. The more self-confident and positive you come across this place is a hole.

      • Will be happy to be home

        When they were a toddler they wrote their first book. By twelve they had graduated from University. I think this place is rediculous, rediculous with its expectations and I can not wait to be home. Melbourne the city for geniuses, talk about pretentious pricks. it to

  148. Chose to experience and live in Melbourne for over 1 year. It was an interesting experience. Not the friendliest state in Australia I found. The weather is chaotic. They have a very high view of their city Melbourne and a very dim view of every other Australian city. Unfortunately they appear a bit brainwashed and insecure to make such superficial comments.Everybody appears to be a clone of each other doing the same thing and having to have interest in footy and coffee. If you don’t fit into their box you will always be an outsider. On the surface they appear to be a tolerant outward looking state, however beneath the surface they are in fact not that tolerant or outward looking.

  149. It used to be a thing where you’d move to Melbourne for more job opportunities/excitement, but I wouldn’t now. Adelaide, Perth and some other places might be more boring, but it’s preferable to putting up with this stupid hellhole now.

  150. the “rust belt” of australia or a region known as the manufacturing heartland of the nation. Shares similarities with places like Michigan and starting to show first signs of the capital of Detroit in good old USA. The only difference is they don’t know it yet as they are 10-20 years behind in the business cycle. the manufacturing decline and increase in crime rate are a sure way to speed up the way to get there.

    • Not much longer till we go home

      Melbourne the city for gen y and old yuppies that is about it. Run by a pretentious plutocrats who decide who they like better and preference certain people over others. If you like unfair treatment, bullies, inequality, ridiculous expectations double-standards pretentious people than it is the city for you. Undemocratic, zero opportunities than it is your city, conventionality.

      • Not much longer till we go home

        Work I lived here for sixteen years I found it was impossibly difficult to get work but it did not apply to just work.

      • I found melbourne to be a stuffy ‘old boys club’. The terms ‘fake rich’, ‘cashed up bogan’ and ‘new rich’ come to mind. Lots of people drive low end Mercedes and BMW, love fine wine/fancy coffee, designer clothing. People pretend to be sophisticated, yet they live in a Metricon home in Berwick. Somehow this makes them feel ‘european’ and cultured.

        The people are awful, aggressive, rude.

  151. melbournians will tell you Melbourne is the NY, London, Paris, Jakarta, Baghdad and Birdsville of Australia – all simultaneously. Never has there been a city so desperate for recognition that deep down knows it’s just not that interesting or special…

  152. Not much longer till we go home

    It is run autocrat/plutocrats, who do believe human beings should have options and choices, as part of the heavily rednecked population who do not care or think about democracy, fairness. Who rule the place with an iron fist and staunchly against the poor being able to get anywhere. It is incredibly bogan, devoid of culture except it claims it is the cultural capital of Australia. There is an enormous tall poppy syndrome but no fair go exasperated by the fact that the majority of not Australian here. Hence the poor interpretation of Australian culture and culture full stop. You are not allowed to do anything. I am Aussie I do not judge others, I am a decent guy, I am not corrupt, and I do things fairly and democratically. Melbourne is a pyramid scheme created by the Keynesians and neo-liberalists to hereby make baby-boomers, and generation y’s and to rich, richer, middle-class the same, and the poor, poorer. It is ruled with an iron fist. Besides members of the CIA mentioned by Assange, there are foreign government officials, future state and federal government members who are from political lineages. Melbourne is about inheritance which is supposedly why it is like Europe. Where at home you talk to your local representative and they will New Zealand’s economy being fairer than Australia’s in Melbourne they do not care. Melbourne is the epitome of an unfair Australian economy. Keeping money within family’s, people, groups of people is part of that. Exacerbated by the selfishness of the selfishness of the bogans in the place who do not want to share. Class warfare from the hippies of the 1970s still exists in Melbourne. Which gets me to the major subcultures of Melbourne which are bogans and hippies and then there are yuppies. The many establishment types aforementioned make Melbourne an unbearably bureaucratic and undemocratic place. In Melbourne the group reigns supreme and if you come on your own you are at a huge disadvantage. People in Melbourne are very insular and judgemental and unforgiving and vindictive and they will hold you back on how you behave and judge by that. On how you spoke in the past i.e. how you spoke in the past, coupled by an enormous amount of superficiality as they have only hung out before with carbon copies of themselves. Think of utter emphasis on conformity, bad imitating of Australian culture i.e. Ocker ascents, but the people underneath it have no real Aussie values or mentality, dog eat dog American hipsters, who think they know everything instead. And underneath it these people are incredibly cynical, undermining and vindictive and fake. Think about quantity rather than quality. A place where local who are well loved and known have people who are from somewhere else try and pull the rug from underneath them. A place that is so rednecked that there are signs on shops saying no blacks, or they won’t pay you on time with a commission as you do not have a day job. Employers will use every loophole imaginable to take advantage of you. Where the art scene is incredibly old-fashioned, pre-punk, pre-everything and so scenie, where you have to had some type of success to begin with. Where formulaicness and unoriginality, predictability, repeated rosters of the same festivals of up and coming comedians or who they think will be successful, are put on display for all to see. This is another caveat it is all about how you seem, what the people think of you here. Melbourne foreigners and interstate people and Melbournians aspire to take down and undermine people with less money and power like myself, who are enormously popular. Where the tiny minded villagers of Melbourne will use your past against you. What sucks about Melbourne, the weather is survivable, but everything else is questionable? Melbourne is about domination and Melbourne is an abomination. The rich property developers, have overdeveloped the place and making themselves and the council’s filthy rich and you thought bill Gates was bad. Sponsored by elitist bogans from the 1950s. People here like to control everything.

    • The worst thing about Melbourne is everything!

      Because the people are always trying to outsmart other people in Melbourne. Because they are bogans.

      • What culture?

        Every time I am astonished by how bogan it is.

      • What culture?

        Every time I come back to Melbourne to visit I am always astonished by how bogan it is. Not bad for a place that claims to be the cultural harp of Australia. Capitalist cultural centre of Australia. And the people are incredibly competitive and selfish.

  153. Social ladder

    It is a good place to do nothing to do with your life. Unless you are willing to completely comply. Melbourne is most probably an experimental base for the American CIA. Where Europeans restrict you from doing what you want with your life as they see themselves as being superior to you.

    • The Weather is not just cold!

      Coldest place in Australia. Feckless, selfish.

      • The Weather is not just cold!

        Coldest people in Australia award.

      • Best ways to explain how Melbourne is the race that controls the past, controls the present, and therefore the future.

      • Best ways to explain how Melbourne is the race that controls the past, controls the present, and therefore the future. Ruling class of Melbourne.

  154. What culture?

    Class and culture are apparently materialism and your status in life. This is overly philosophical by the standards of the people here. They treat you like there is something wrong with you are not like that. In despotism and tyranny is endorsed and especially no thanks to the bogans who run Melbourne these days.

  155. What culture?

    What would be named bogan, yob, is considered classy in Melbourne. In Melbourne even the likes of Alan bond and Christopher skase are thought to be classy and cultured as they had money nothing dubious character and missdealings. Whereby the people behave in a similar manner. Do not come to Melbourne if you are poor. Exacerbated by the lack of human compassion, empathy, full of pomposity those who victimise and undermine the vulnerable.

  156. When I lived in the place last I had a saying ‘not for the last sixty years.’

    • Melbourne and Sydney are the same. Both are full of utter bogans who can even traverse both of them. Most of the cities are both full of predominantly foreigners who mimic Aussie culture. Yet they do not have the faintest idea of what it means to be Australian and are doing a poor imitation of the culture. Doing things that are not really Aussie.

      • Huge tall-poppy syndrome in Melbourne not much of a fair go. Arrogance, and undermining others are examples of traits that are not truly Aussie in Melbourne.

      • This illustrates that they do not really understand what the culture is about.

  157. Supremacists

    Banksy’s artwork is even painted over by other artists in Melbourne. Better art and murals have been painted over is an indication of the arrogance of the people here.

    • The people in Melbourne are vile. They suffer from tall poppy syndrome, they are cold, bitter, angry and smug. They are ‘faux rich.’ Often mentioning how they frequent art galleries and the theatre. They will spend their weekends going for coffee in graffitied laneways. The people are very interested in judging others.

      They will then tell you they Melbourne is the capital of the world.

      • I am not a capitalist!

        Upper-class people its there right to be a-holes you wonder why it is hard to get anywhere in Melbourne.

  158. Melbourne is full of rude, ignorant, horrid people

    Welcome to Melbourne- the stiff upper lip, fascist, Orwellian hell hole that prohibits freedom of speech. Just ask David Icke. Also full of rude filth who might run you over with a pram or trolley without stopping if you don’t get out of their majesty’s way. Don’t even get me started on the zombies fixated on their phones who fail to look where they’re going and bump into you without an apology. Melbourne has deteriorated into a disgusting horrid place full of creatures who act like their sh*t doesn’t stink.

  159. Absolutely spot-on. I live in Melbourne, and I hate the place. The people are completely out of touch with the rest of Australia and the world.

  160. Bland, flat, cold industrial concrete jungle. Could as well be an island state like Tasmania with an island mentality. Dislikes every other city in Australia except themselves. Sums up the delusional inward and arrogant mindset and state of affairs. Offers nothing special just a shopping mall culture which is a US invention, not European, however trying to convince themselves that they are sophisticated by drinking coffee like Europeans. There is no differentiator and the city does not offer anything unique!

  161. Fucking cold cunt of a city full of AFL obsessed meathead nutsacks. Fucking hate it so glad I never have to see it or it’s retarded footy fans again.

  162. Everywhere you go in Melbourne, there seems to be a vegan menu. Vegan hamburgers (what the f) and vegan cheese (also, what the f). Small talk is rife, nothing that meaningful. We get so bored because our interests are deep and different, but never get the chance to talk about them. Nobody is interested in different – what they are interested in is having you conform. There’s a tendency to get “stuck” in certain areas; people will follow like lemmings a common train of thought and think it’s “normal”. Like driving outside of the area. We actually leave the suburb, people. But that is considered outrageous. We run into incompetent people all day, every day, from businesses to pedestrians to motorists. The “dumb generation”.

  163. You want to know what else is unbelievable? Is when Melburnians go on holiday to Queensland and love it so much, but they arrive back home and say they had to “come back to reality”, then piss off to Phillip Island hoping to capture the same vibe. But they won’t move because their “lives are in Melbourne”. They’ve been had.

  164. I am a European who migrated to Brisbane years ago ( my dad’s bizarre decision to relocate across the World ). Absolutely HATED Brisbane and its bogan small-minded mentality. I could not wait to leave that provincial hell-hole. My biggest mistake though was to relocate to Melbourne, thinking it would be – according to its reputation – a sophisticated European city. Boy was I wrong ! Melbourne is just as parochial – and dare I say even more narrow-minded – than Brisie. Melbournians are UBER-CLICKY and antisocial, not curious at all about other cultures. And the AFL obsession !! As a teacher, I was shocked to see the indoctrination starts at such a young age, in primary school, they have a ‘ footy day ‘ where children parade around the school with their scarves and beanies representing their team.

    I also got the recurrent :” So, what team do you barrack for ? “. When I responded “I do not follow the footy “, the response I usually got was one of utter shock and horror . A bloke even told me ” But you live in Melbourne so you HAVE TO pick a team !! ” WTF …?? And I am not even a bloke myself. They just try to shove footy down your throat everywhere you go, it’;s sickening.
    After almost a decade of being miserable there, I decided to relocate to Brisvegas. Yes, Brisbane has more Bogans per capita but at least it is sunny here and people are on a whole a lot friendlier and more relaxed.
    My biggest regret in life is to have gone to Melbourne in the first place. I should have gone back to Europe instead of trying to settle in this depressing unwelcoming try-hard-European city wannabe – hell hole.

    • ChookRaffle

      Like religion, Melbourne needs to indoctrinate
      from birth to work properly. Live there without and you will clap comedian Larry Seinfeld’s view, that Melbourne is the arse end of the world

  165. I too really don’t like Melbourne. I moved here in 2003 for study and stayed for work. Left for five years, and then because I’d bought a house here made the mistake of returning – what was I thinking!. It is an incredibly insular place, full of nepotism. Melbournians look out for people in their ‘click’ and keep everyone else out. This way they can maintain their (ill earned) status and wealth (and accompanying self-perceived importance) and have all their friends telling them they deserve it. It is definitely a city based on ‘who you know’ and not ‘what you know’. The bullying at work that undermines anyone that is seen as a threat is appalling. I have also never felt more isolated in my life. People are superficially nice, but not truly welcoming and they don’t invite you in. For the most part they are also not interesting or engaged, so I suppose not being invited in isn’t such a loss – but I don’t think I can live without any social network at all forever. It really feels like a slow, lonely way to die. It is not at all a European city, it is a boring, dull, wasteland.

  166. Impoverished with no future

    Melbourne is like Europe you inherit your money. You inherit your position in life which is often predetermined for you. So the rest of the population does not know what to do, when jobs have to other people who are usually relatives or friends. And find it very hard to navigate the city on their own. So much for this modernist enlightenment idea of power to the individual. Melbourne is power to the bourgeoisie is a plutocratic oligarchy run by people with a common-cause which is to oppress the poor. Which is apparently a christian value. Even if your a wealthy celebrity there is such a tall poppy syndrome by the ruling bourgeoisie there they will still treat you like crap. Kill the poor get your gun out is the attitude in Melbourne. Let’s go poor people hunting, by a bunch of segregationalist liberals who autocratically run the place like ancient Rome, but how are supposed to start at the bottom when they will not let you start at all, or you will be at the bottom due to being poor and an individual for eternity. This is supposedly how it is akin to Europe do not worry the rich will undermine you.

  167. impoverished with no future

    The people are about as interesting as yeah but not but, it is so dull. Concrete jungle where the animals are the ex-grunger rich people who have inherited from their deceased parents who they have helped bring to their coffin. And their own children will probably do the same to them which are usually in threes. By the corporations which will eventually have a stranglehold over everybody in Melbourne. And the redneck hippies from the countryside originally who won’t let you do anything with your life.

  168. Business as usual

    In this day and age when the solutions to problems these days is to furnish the rich and corporations with more power. With much of the recovery of the world employing these methods.

  169. Business as usual

    Money printing, economic engineering, lower interest rates. Whose that of greatest benefit to do you think?

    The cunts on the streets of Melbourne who say they own the place, loudly proclaim that they do?

    The materialistic bourgeoisie hippies that have become yuppies?

  170. Business as usual

    P.S. A realist.

  171. Realist and they think you do not realise this?

    P.S. A realist.

  172. Realist and they think you do not realise this

    P.S. A realist

  173. insecure and I want to be rich: I will deliberately go out of my way to be rich and make fun of those who do not want, a sign of the times

    confidence and get rich quick to prove their superiority to other people scumbags. through behaving in a domineering manner and setting things up with their friends to be expedient to their own group new age hippies turned yuppy. People who think they know the facts of life more than anyone else who are willing to undermine others who are new age yuppies hence their superficiality and insensitivity. And superficial thought to be knowledge to themselves, others are fools its the group mentality. Coupled with hippy conservatism and redneckism and prevention which is part of their gravitating towards yuppiedom and humiliating those who are not willing to stoop to their level nor have the means to.

  174. Best place on earth

    Elitism in rife in Australia and you can not get anywhere unless you are reasonably bourgeoisie from a nice neighbourhood are reasonable well to do. Insecurity of those who will everything within their power to keep things the same. You only have to watch the victorian news to hear them talk about the bloody rat race, how the bourgeoisie are those that can succeed. Yet those who have succeeded in Melbourne do not observe this. Condescending English accents and horrible people who have money are thought to be classy. With their barrage of abuse in the form of insults, not giving them a fair go, preying on the insecurities of others unlike themselves not bourgeoisie. The pecking order of Melbourne is fixed and very much deliberate.

  175. Permanently lower middle class

    Because being upper class and being able to do things these days and do what you like. But being lower middle class is the opposite.

  176. Melbourne is fucked full of slimy Chinese scum and sudo dogs and the weather is fucked half the year

    • “Melbourne is fucked full of slimy Chinese scum and sudo dogs and the weather is fucked half the year”
      Melbourne is definitely shit and deserving of criticism but you’re just a racist piece of shit.

      • Agreed there’s no need to be like that get a life

      • Reasonably obervant.

        In Australia they won’t let you have a life. The whole country is rigged as a big Kangaroo court, by Americans and other bourgeoisie factors.

      • The realities of life

        The only people who are allowed to do things are millennials, bourgeoisie and the rich, as everyone else. Australia is a fascist country run by a ruling elite.

      • The realities of life

        Australia as a country is one where the only people who succeed or allowed to move on with their lives are the rich bourgeoisie. Australia is a fascist country.

      • The realities of life

        Australia as a country is one where the only people who succeed or allowed to move on with their lives are the rich bourgeoisie. Australia is a fascist country. Mates nepotism is practiced like there is no tomorrow.

      • Unconvinced otherwise yankee

        Unfortunately the Australian idea of liberal democracy is rigged and it is not all people have autonomy ‘fool,’ and have the right to do what they want with their life, regardless of who they are. Australia is controlled by the interests and desires of the imperialists Americans and the bigotry of those Americans and value system of those Americans which are different to our own. As well as bigotry and insularity of boganism which the Americans adopt for their own purposes, as well as the plethora of redneck or authoritarian aussies whether they be foreigners, anglo or other. Why do you do think people end up permanently in Australia and not in other countries that are much more liberally democratic. The country I grew up in they would just let you do what you want with your life regardless of who you were, what family you were born into, what friends you had, Australia is not like this. Australia is fascist, and they won’t let many of the citizens have a life, it is a rigged country. You go looking for work, you can give 100 cv’s out for low-skilled work and you get no-where. If you put your leg or arm there you get nowhere.

  177. Australia is so bogan, that it is not democratic

    No democracy in Australia, there is no way in this country to get a life, because of the Americans and the bogan cunts who just won’t let you do anything with your life. You go looking for work you get no where, you want to exhibit artwork you get no where. In Australia they won’t let you have a life. In Australia socio-economic mobility. This is because it’s rigged by bourgeoisie people from Australia and overseas, who especially hate the poor. Australia is not a democracy its a plutocracy and this is from someone that is Australia. They just won’t let you do things, much of it has to do with the ridiculous expectations and nepotism such as its not what you do it is how quickly you do it, if you produce lousy artwork, as long you start an art career quickly.

  178. Australia is a fascist joke

    There are so few resources in Australia that people battle it out over Bunnings jobs and in order to be tradies, which you need an apprenticeship for anyone. But you want you to have those jobs, early bird catches the worm that is how Australia operates, whose the worm recall that. Then we have neo nazi’s from other countries such as America and Britain and the countryside and you wonder why there is no democracy in Australia.

    • Fascism in Australia

      United states of fascism, which paradoxically Australia is part of. Enforced patronise to America, thought-police, life-style police the Americans are the evil empire. Australia is a police state, with the usage of torture outside of Guantanamo bay. The imperialist Americans ploy for world domination.

  179. Unpretentious done under!

    Have you got money capitalists and inheritors. And we can make heaps of money stealing the bounty from the earth.

    • Unpretentious done under!

      If you have not noticed this country is run and full of people who do give a rats azz about democracy. Please complain, what it boils is that problem that has no name, which also has its origins in the 1950s.

  180. Australia is fascist

    United states of fascism if you ask me and Australia’s part of it.

  181. Australia is not democratic

    United states of fascism which Australia is part of. Who are the thought-police and lifestyle police but the Americans.

  182. America is democratic, what does evil look like

    Which do object to more americano mussolini, americano stalin, americano hitler, or al franco americano. Because that’s the reality we reside in these days. What do think they all have in common?

    Answer:- United States of Fascism

    How do you like your fascism, do you have a choice, egg, bacon, beans, motzerela, and all brought to you by American corporation sponsored by a 1950s unquestioningness that is about making money at the end of the day. And you wonder why?

    Money means power that’s why the Chinese and Americans and Europeans want it and will try and outsmart those who are worse off than them to keep hold of it.

    • Imperialist prick

      Anybody remember the pharaohs of ancient Egypt or Napoleon Bona apart, then there was Genghis Ghan, these realities of life, how the world operates, the Germans in the second world war, the former Soviet Union, those with more rule over those who have less this Melbourne and the whole of Australia including that state of America the US. Then there were the jews, hitter, the peoples republic of china, 100 other serpents or conquerors with plans for world domination and control such as the US. The germans with Japanese in the second world war. Britain with apartheid, India and mahatma gandhi, the Dutch in the east indies, or sri lanka whatever it was. Now there’s the bourgeoisie and Donald Trump.

      • Competition and I won

        Half-wits with agendas all of them, and don’t you worry they don’t care about you. They just want to conquer you.

      • Competition

        And these people want to convince you that the proper way is to conquer, conquer your rights, conquer your rights and control you.

      • Competition

        And these people want to convince you that the proper way is to conquer, conquer your rights, conquer your rights and control you. And what is democracy by the way.

  183. Imperialism in a bottle like piss

    Macron does not hate Macron or the ruling elite who hates Macron is the French actually.

  184. An arrogant wealthy elitist c---

    Once upon a time there was this school called Geelong Grammar and all they taught their pupils was that they were superior and they hammered that into the ruling elite people who went and they were very callous the people who worked there. And you wonder why the world is the way it is, all this is a true story and how do I know this because my past stepdad went there.

    • An arrogant wealthy elitist

      The type of story you could go to sleep listening to wistfully if you were a kid. And the people who worked there were so arrogant and on themselves as according to a past resident who lived there. Because they worked in the most elite private school in the world at the time. You think Australia is elitist there maybe a reason why that is. Cite the unpretentious Kangaroo is you quote this online comment. By the way there is a nursery rhyme for it, but it has Hitler in it.

  185. An arrogant wealthy elitist c---

    Ever wonder why many of the most successful people in Melbourne have gone through Melbourne University or one of the Grammar School and you want to tell me Australia is an egalitarian society.

  186. An arrogant wealthy elitist c---

    Ever wonder why many of the most successful people in Melbourne have gone through Melbourne University or one of the Grammar School and you want to tell me Australia is an egalitarian society. Australia is about as democratic as Adolf Hitler’s Germany based on they think of you. In much the same way the tape water contaminated where the pipes are rusted.

  187. Ever wonder why many of the most successful people in Melbourne have gone through Melbourne University or one of the Grammar School and you want to tell me Australia is an egalitarian society. Australia is about as democratic as Adolf Hitler’s Germany based on they think of you. In much the same way the tape water contaminated where the pipes are rusted.

  188. Some are born more equal than others

    Ever wonder why many of the most successful people in Melbourne have gone through Melbourne University or one of the Grammar School and you want to tell me Australia is an egalitarian society. Australia is about as democratic as Adolf Hitler’s Germany based on they think of you. In much the same way the tape water contaminated where the pipes are rusted.

  189. Some are born more others

    Some are born more others. Others are just treated less equal than others, due the American lifestyle and thought-police. The rest of become less than others due to the Americans and their agenda.

  190. Animal Farm Australis

    In Australia those that the most patriotic that know that this is a competition will be rewarded. And those who are least patriotic to the Americans such as the average poor Australia will be punished. Everyone of the American George Orwell applies to our reality. Meanwhile the Chinese are looking at Australia from the sidelines, and there saying what is democracy, obviously it is imperfect. Enquiring what liberties does democracy guarantee anyway. And some of that is thanks to the Americans others because of the bourgeoisie who are intertwined with the Americans.

  191. Imperialist prick with a penis

    And who could forget that apparently about world control to scare the American people into obedience. You’re either with us or against us. Where in the deep end now and the Americans plans for world control. The world is losing respect for the Americans, did the world have respect for the Americans. CIA and they keep sending more bourgeoisie people our way.

  192. Contemporary modern world blasphamy

    Yes:- Who could forgot 1911 when the American NSA allowed a terrorist to hijack an airplane and send towards the world trade centre. Causing the deaths of many of its own citizens. And the world has never been the same since. The war on terror, the war on freedom, the war on democracy, the war against common people who are either not part of the ruling elite or want to do to do what the ruling elite want them. The Americans enormous desire to finally win something. Hence the world we live in these days, the ineffectual demolishment of genuine democracy, enforced patriotism, even David Sedaris is dead. Maybe he had too much anti-American sentiment, and what these people have against your typical Aussie. Do things in life as quickly as possible or you won’t be able to get anywhere, or maybe these hicks, took Michel Foucault’s words too literally. Middle-class fast-food culture, and democracy nowhere in sight taken over by opinionated rednecks.

  193. Contemporary fascism

    And the bloody hippies who wanted to order the world according to who they thought were gifted or chosen ones (golden ones), are given preference over everyone else.

  194. British Guru

    Like London they treat people like inferiors and like crap, because apparently it will teach them a lesson and its spiritual.

  195. British Guru

    That is correct through being horrible and hard.

  196. Life these days

    Our democracy has been sabotaged by people with agendas, who think that life’s easy as they are bourgeoisie and it has been rigged.

  197. One of those neo nazi hippies with an agenda

    With short hair they still come across as arrogant, authoritarian and chauvinistic hicks that are hippie nazi’s even with that. Who are out of touch, who think it is easy because they are so bourgeoisie and others who just like them and think their smart will give them a fair go. And think highly of them as they are just like themselves, your out on your own, but they will help each other. Thanks Steve Bannon’s of the world, Manson’s and other fascist, arrogant fake, chauvinistic turds, rigged.

  198. Who think the public’s fooled small slice of liberty, just like Donald Trump.

  199. one of the fascists

    Hipsters are tryhard materialistic, capitalist, bourgeoisie this and that, who are sponsored by the CIA, who are former bogan hippies that are archaic dinaosaurs.

  200. Full of 19th century country people and Americans who are fans of the Simpsons who take it word for word as how reality is.

  201. Not born in the 1950s I don't like this current decade

    People no longer trust the government, because of the world these days with people long term unemployed, the half-wits that are attempting to regurgitate the 1950s or 19th century. Basing things on how intelligent they think you are, this enforced bourgeosieism. Everybody must be the same. People effectually brainwashed, in this day and age. Advertisements promoting the bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie way of life and an unquestioningness. You want to tell me to get a life. When I was growing up it was a genuine democracy, no-censors in the form of big industry and the bourgeoisie and the powers that be. Along arrives firstly the 90s where you are not allowed to do anything with your life unless you are bourgeoisie and unbelievable restrictions placed on you and conservatism. But these days it is even worse.

  202. Not born in the 1950s I don't like the current decade

    People no longer trust the government, because of the world these days with people long term unemployed, the half-wits that are attempting to regurgitate the 1950s or 19th century. Basing things on how intelligent they think you are, this enforced bourgeosieism. Everybody must be the same. People effectually brainwashed, in this day and age. Advertisements promoting the bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie way of life and an unquestioningness. You want to tell me to get a life. When I was growing up it was a genuine democracy, no-censors in the form of big industry and the bourgeoisie and the powers that be. Along arrives firstly the 90s where you are not allowed to do anything with your life unless you are bourgeoisie and unbelievable restrictions placed on you and conservatism. But these days it is even worse. You live in the northern rivers where all the hippies are it is like going back to a place more conservative than the 1950s.

  203. Not brought up in the 1950s I don't like this decade

    People no longer trust the government, because of the world these days with people long term unemployed, the half-wits that are attempting to regurgitate the 1950s or 19th century. Basing things on how intelligent they think you are, this enforced bourgeosieism. Everybody must be the same. People effectually brainwashed, in this day and age. Advertisements promoting the bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie way of life and an unquestioningness. You want to tell me to get a life. When I was growing up it was a genuine democracy, no-censors in the form of big industry and the bourgeoisie and the powers that be. Along arrives firstly the 90s where you are not allowed to do anything with your life unless you are bourgeoisie and unbelievable restrictions placed on you and conservatism. But these days it is even worse. You live in the northern rivers where all the hippies are it is like going back to a place more conservative than the 1950s.

    Not brought up in the 1950s I don’t like this decade

  204. There is no democracy anymore when people are so up themselves

    How hot they think they are, fascists. Agendas of the bourgeoisie and other powerful, influential individuals. I hate the 1950s.

  205. Liberty used to exist

    Shame there is no democracy or you would have autonomy over your life not just for the chosen ones and the reasonably well off.

  206. Remember the novue rich c---s

    If you were genuinely upper class there would be no need for you ruthless and dog-eat-dog, nor would you prevent other people from acquiring money as you already be rich.

  207. Melbourne really does suck. I was born there I grew up there… I should know the truth is there is nothing here most people are racist and pretty lame, the weather is even worse, don’t even get me started on the public transport…. I’m 30 years old i lived in Melbourne my past whole life until
    I finally moved to Adelaide six months ago I used to always hear people talk bad about Adelaide but the fact is it’s way better than Melbourne
    Melbourne might have had some good things about it 10 years ago but ever since then it just keeps getting worse and worse… Believe me
    This is not a hate speech I’m giving. There is a lot of things very very wrong with Melbourne… If you can’t see that or believe it try living there
    And if you still can’t see it… Your defenetly in denial…

  208. Melbourne Stinks

    Melbourne=Virtue signalling 3rd world trash

  209. I really enjoy my life in Melbourne to the fullest. born and brought up in this lively urban city I have seen many shades of its culture. Every city with a big population has some cons too, but the suburban life in Melbourne completes if there are any drawbacks. for people working near CBD they have plenty of options to commute from nearby suburbs.

  210. Dog eat dog westerner hippies, who are definitely not eastern.

  211. But everything about the hippies and what they do and their mentality is western, from preferring complexity, to being bourgeoisie.

  212. I grew up in Melbourne too. Melbourne is full of insular, conformist bogans, who are rigid and conservative, and bourgeoisie and old-fashioned like most of Australia who are rednecks, who won’t give people a fair-go and hence people’s lives don’t move forward. Where the focus is on competition and dog eat dog which is also very Australian mixed in with bourgeoisie elitism, and expectations and total emphasis on conformity. The galleries are conformists to fashion and therefore most of it is garbage, these attributes are very Aussie. Unfair and undemocratic that is Australia for you.

  213. Adding to it, an obliviousness and lack of self-awareness which is also very Aussie.

  214. For a society which is a rat race, or competition, if you may.

  215. Traditional and old fashioned, small slice of liberty, conformist.

  216. What we are being sold these days, this bourgeoisie-ism has appeal to 1% of the population. Works for 1% of the population.

  217. A healthy democracy, everyone is allowed to do what they want with their lives, and have autonomy, within reason. Our democracy in Melbourne you apply for things you get nothing but rejections. No fair go. Maybe they are hoping to turn you into a neo nazi by marginalizing you in Australia.

  218. Australia- A penal colony

    Where I am from which is Melbourne they test and judge whether you’re a man, by brutal excoriation of both mind and body, with physical and psychological torment, involving injury and capital punishment. As well as capital punishment there is good behaviour bond and you can buy yourself out of prison, because it is a prison. Although some dishonest people will deny this and probably might try and hunt me down and kill me, I am willing to take that risk. At this stage of my life and not being able to get anywhere in the place, I do not think it would make any difference anyway.

  219. Australia- A penal colony

    Alpha male, like place.

  220. Australia- A penal colony

    I would but you have me pinned.

  221. Subverting responsibility

    In Melbourne they adhere probes to you, then they pelt stones at you and finally they say social media made them do it.

  222. Ruling Class

    They pulverise your bones in Melbourne, then they use the resulting pestle, cowboy train drivers, bad tram and bus drivers, then they will pretend you have forgotten already or deny it.

    • Soon-to-be-ex Melbinian

      Melbourne is indeed a horrible city, but judging by the hundreds of rambling posts you’ve created over the last year (making it difficult to read the legitimate comments on this obviously-unmoderated page), you need some serious help.

      • Response to a hostile majority

        I think the problem with this country and the reason it operates the way it does, which is extremely unfair, is people such as yourself, who have a poor sense of boundaries. Aussies both new and old have a poor sense of boundaries, but they are conformists.

      • Maybe you should help yourself.

      • You must be one of those dishonest, self-serving, weaklings, self-righteous, arrogant, insular and judgemental, fake, control freak hippies, who invaded Melbourne in the beginning of this decade. That just happens to only like the least alternative music and everything from the decade of my childhood. The real hippies all became yuppies and straight people in that decade. Although probably still connected with the CIA. But what do you expect for something that is not really a subculture, I’m going underground. Yes, I am emotionally disturbed and f-ed up, unlike insecure probably hippie self I don’t care. You were to begin with when landed in Melbourne probably one of those emotionally and physically violent people, unlike myself, not that you recall ( perhaps under the influence of drugs).

      • Plastic bubble from man, who asked you bloody bourgeoisie hippie twat, yes I am emotionally disturbed. Live with it.

      • Hippie, I am emotionally disturbed and then you abused me in the streets, not that you recall that man.

      • What type of plastic bubble world you from?

        Really get wrapped in cotton wool that much, deep within suburbia?

      • Impoverished

        I am one of those horrible poor people.

      • You don’t like Melbourne because it is dark and intense. What type of suburban paradise are you from Mickey mouse. Dismembered bodies, tendons severed and blood pouring out. Shattered contorted bones.

      • Blood curdling, and snarling.

  223. Response to a hostile majority

    You must be one of those people who invaded Melbourne, who was one of those hippies, who took themselves overly-seriously, who thought they were smart-asses, who have no self-awareness, with a penchant for stigmatizing vulnerable people. One of those people who made Melbourne a hell-hole, I doubt you remember what you did though. You probably can not even recall why you hate Melbourne. Which means either your dishonest, self-deceiving or really can not recall what you did you dastard. Scared all the time, with no sense of humor to speak of. Who was annoying as all hell, and passive aggressive, not genuine nice and hard as can be.

  224. My name:- Frozen Cold, look for me online

    How old skool they think us Melbournians are who are hippies that invaded Melbourne. To quote the lyrics if I am still alive due to the thought-police hippies a and from the seventies called Magazine ‘I do not think you people are really so sweet.’ Power-tripping, control freaks.

  225. Frozen Cold

    Icy cold and pitch black. It’s a free country. Don’t you remember what you did and said. People that do things that normally individuals would be too scared to do, as they would be sued for it.

  226. Frozen Cold

    Warmth is also connected with demons and the fires of hell, bloody hippies, remember that?

  227. Long time veteran

    I have lived in Australia a long time. What I put it down to, not being able to get anywhere, is the people. The people of Australia are rigid, conservative, insular people.

    • Long time veteran

      I don’t remember people ever saying that we thought we were stupid when we were growing up in a foreign country. But in Australia they do.

  228. Cockroaches, rodents.

  229. You have no idea how sick in the head I am, by the sterilised plastic bubble are you from.

  230. It coloured most of my teenage in pitched blackness.

  231. I spent 3 days in Melbourne and I thought what’s wrong with me only seeing negative things about this city. I’m glad it’s not just me!
    What a shame and disappointment Melbourne is!
    The attitude of the city is not welcoming at all. And I read different people mentioning “if you’re single” that’s do true.
    I am so glad I don’t have to deal with these people everyday. Such an overrated place.

  232. Contemporary concentration camp: whatever happened to common-sense

    If somebody deprived you of things, such as the things of life, called you names day in, day out, told you how stupid they thought you were day in, day out, undermined you, and bullied you, judged you, treated you unfairly, would you think that was nice.

  233. Life these days: Shame about common-sense

    If somebody, deprived you of things, bullied you day in, day out, undermined you, told you how stupid they thought you were day in, day out, treated you unfairly, would you think they were nice.

  234. Australia is fascist: Anonymous

    Only the middle-class are allowed to succeed or do things in Australia, of the enormous rigidity and conservatism of Australian culture. Australia is so elitist, that only the middle-class are allowed to do anything with their life in country. All based on what they personally think of you.

  235. Australia is fascist

    The Australian Experience.

  236. The problem Australia

    Even though I am not christian I deem arrogance and having a high-opinion of oneself as being Demonical. And people that are up themselves as doing bad things due to their high-opinion of themselves. More readily inclined to pull others down be uncensored, unrestrained those that are up themselves. This is in spite of not being Christian. I see people that are arrogant and up themselves as being evil. And indulging in some kind of hedonistic satanism through being up themselves.

  237. Contorted culture: Egomaniacal wankers of Oz

    When I moved back to Australia, my impression was Australians were supposed to be humble, instead they were egomaniacs, who were full of themselves, who will not hire you unless you are a total dick, and you are treated something wrong with you unless your a wanker and full of yourself, wankers of Australia, on top of it think they are more Australian than you.

  238. Are horrible, how come because they are so up themselves, apparently not considered the case in Australia these days.

  239. Opinions of bogans in Australia

    Some based on arbitrary whim of individuals, are from gossip, others based on stereotypes, all and all non-sense.

  240. Culture, I am a hippy yob, say yob. Psychedelic yob, wee.

  241. Yob, I'm the hippy man!

    Over-serious, hippy yob, I promise you I am a harder worker, man. Competition man.

  242. You're not a real nerd or geek1

    Full of self-labelling poseurs, who do not fit the definition of what they say they are. Competitive, insensitive jocks, that’s Australia.

  243. You're not a nerd or geek: Stop posing

    I all my years avoiding competitive because I thought it was un-evolved and boring, from a very young age. My mum got me a dog which I hated as they thought it would make me more physically active as a kid. I used to love anything electrical or mechanical or anything like Asterix, or Fantasy Books, just to read a bit of them. Everyone I have ever played Chess against I have beaten. I got 20 something when I used to play Galaga. Even though I put a minimum effort into VCE I still passed and was a mess. I’m the real thing, unlike these poseurs.

  244. You're not a nerd or geek: Stop posing

    I starved myself almost to death because I said I did not want to feel so bad anymore. I did not have many friends in school, as I was too shy and timid, I’m the real thing.

  245. Observations about so-called subcultures

    Hippies, you can not possibly have a brain, unless you are conforming, making money and being bourgeoisie. It must be this idea that you are somehow maladjusted, unless you are part of society, hippie intellectualism. The hippies are all about conformity and being bourgeoisie.

    • 'I just want to be free, I don't care unity,' the suburban reptiles

      It’s along class lines, everyone has to win, even the homeless people, not the bourgeois care, what gets them is that there are lower-class people and losers in the place. I just want the right to. Right to do what I want with my life regardless of my socioeconomic status. I want autonomy in a democracy and I feel I have been deprived of it in Melbourne. Everything I have ever applied for, gone looking for work has been futile, housing, and when I got into ACU I was bullied. SOS. I don’t live here anymore am making me feel angry.

      • Moving to Sydney

        Melbourne used to have the Melbourne hipster and they were a completely different creature to the North American or European variety, who are materialistic, pretentious and intellectual, status orientated, maintain and are the status quo. A very different creature they are, and they are soulless and heartless and not bohemian at all. North east of melbourne is Sydney nowadays.

      • Am angry. Being part of society and conformity is so bohemian and criticising those who are not, crushing societal dissent is so bohemian afterall. Consumerism and shallowness also is bohemian. Being a bourgeoisie person, killing the poor is so boho.

      • A message to Melbourne hipsters

        So boho. The message above this one hey.

    • Another lie from Melbourne in this decade

      Being materialistic and being status oriented is not pretentious. Bohemianism is pretentious aparently, not obsession with status and materialism, please.

      • You have to remember that Bali Nine operated out of Melbourne. The people in the Bali Nine were well and truly aware of what they were doing. They only did it because they would make money from it. This is my point Melbourne is a place whereby the people are motivated by little else, but greed, the potential for recognition etc. It is a very status oriented place whereby the lower classes on their own have few choices or chance. It is a very rigid and inflexible place. The people of Melbourne just like the Bali Nine are mercenary and venal. Then to top it all off they are selfish.

      • The people of Melbourne are corrupted, they do not do things fairly, superficial equality which is incredibly discrimatorily, a combination of them having too much power as well as not having the right intention, if you are in a position of power, it is not because you have integrity, are responsible, or even smart, it is because your parents have money it was planned all along. You do not have to be trustworthy. Melbourne is a city that is divided along class lines, where the people have illogical ridiculous unfair expectations and being lower class is a death knell for you, which more often than not you will never get out of. Melbourne these days has greedy, heartless people, who are doucebags and domineering and selfish, who don’t care about the other people and are very undemocratic, etc.

      • Remember that there are winners and there are losers

        Thanks to the Obama and probably the influence of Donald trump were all supposed to be winners in melbourne, including the poor people. Poor people who are not very well connected and are discriminated against in this place are supposed to be winners. With little mechanism for that to be the case. But some people have very fanciful ideas, especially the bourgeoisie, and ever since the only people obviously been allowed to succeed in Melbourne have been the bourgeoisie, perhaps by the default of being bourgeoisie there winners, with a very us, versus you ness to them, particularly bourgeoisie millenials, which brings me to my next point Melbourne is full of materialistic, oppressive hipsters these days.

  246. Melbourne is a hole

    Melbourne has become a con job, for certain people to hold onto their status with an iron grip, whilst stopping others from getting anywhere. Sophistocation- evasiveness, conforming to society, being as accurate mind reader as possible, stopping others from succeeding, oppressing others, lying. Culture all about how much money you have. This is what this city has evolved into. Not treating others equally, not everyone a fairgo indiscriminately and unconditionally. People who think they are superior because they have money, not giving others a fairgo as they don’t have money. When you into the city these days they treat you badly as you are not rich.

  247. Unfortunate backwardness: no equality and no liberty.

    Whereas in the last decade you would be extra-nice to you, discount things, they would show compassion towards you. One of the unfortunate developments in this decade is that the pretentious c–ts they instead treat you like you like crap or a second class citizen. But unfortunately this kill the poor s–t has been imported from the usa, as well their lack of self-awareness, inability to see things from others perspective. There has been an increased vindictiveness. Our mental illness system has been made to resemble something out of eastern Europe or Ireland from the past because of stigma, which did not exist before this decade. SOS. Elitism, certain people being treated differently to others such as the millenials, kings and queens, if it was a court of justice it could not operate, or it would operate with bias and corruption, talk about a small slice want to work in a shopping center but you don’t even have that. Because certain c–ts have too much power.

    • Whatever happened to democracy

      Melbourne is a rather extreme example of an affluenza monarchy, whereby certain people have much more power than others, the paradox is our system was supposed to prevent this type of society, which is the idea of authentic democracy, which has been eroded over time, by citizens, politicians, public servants, the intelligence agencies, the bourgeosie, when the dilution of power is no longer relevant, meaning that in a real democracy the people are supposed to have more equal amounts of power.

      • The people of Melbourne

        I once lived in Melbourne I recall the mining bogans, the upper-class. The bikies buying up the businesses in town. The rich murderers, the revolving door prison system, which was particularly good for gangland war. The supposedly normal people. The bullies, the satanist christians. The infiltrators of organisations you’re in, that want to prune you size, who were often millenials. Australian culture is all about conformity, poor people are horrible, the people abusing people in the streets en mass, the plagiarists, the you probably can’t think clearly as you’re genuinely boho people, the list, there are supposedly all kinds of people in Melbourne, but they are all the same most of them and they come in waves and often have agendas. From Melbourne has always been dog eat dog to whoever else. To the good luck people, but its really a race Melbourne and a competition.

  248. Melbourne is the 1970s, before the punk movement

    The weather is not formulaic but Melbourne society and its people on the other hand.

  249. Miserable Melbourne

    Melbourne is awful. I have been here two months can not wait to get home. Talk about smdreary or bad taste. The lifestyle and the quality of life are not particularly good. Even when it is not as cold as home, it feels colder and looks darker. A place for certain people to get rich while oppressing others and holding onto their status.

  250. Cultural cringe

    Melbourne has evolved whereby hard-nosed as can be, materialistic, heartless, indifferent and feckless and egocentric and selfish, uncaring, has become over-developed hole. I can explain my experiences of people being kinder and more compassionate in the last-decade.

    • Cultural cringe

      Melbourne has evolved whereby hard-nosed as can be, materialistic, heartless, indifferent and feckless and egocentric and selfish, uncaring, has become over-developed hole. I can explain my experiences of people being kinder and more compassionate in the last-decade. This city has lost its heart and soul.

  251. Melbourne is a barren desert

    Besides the pretentious indifferent, materialistic self-serving hipsters who are arrogant and aloof, no-sense of community all about themselves separatists.

    • Nightmarish Melbourne

      Dystopian Melbourne.

      • Melbourne separatism

        Melbourne has become separatist, with no real sense of community, whereby the people fail to provide or aid others members of the community, whilst looking after themselves. They want to push for people’s funerals here.

      • Dead rat, cockroach

        Being forced to fend yourself much like a post-apocalyptic world.

  252. I can confirm that the people in Melbourne will give to charity often. But when it comes to the poor lower class, or mentally ill the tendency is to leave you to die, sabotage, torture or ignore you. It’s not a place that is utopian needs everyones right to work, housing, opportunity, income.

    • They will give to the bushfire fighting relief fund and starving people in Africa. As for the vulnerable in their own community they won’t. Hence they are permanently poor. Whether its the poor, the mentally ill, the elderly its less than compassionate, and there are plenty of sociopaths.

      • The reality

        Idea is its your own fault or somehow a choice you made. No matter how illogical that is.

      • First hand account

        It’s been my choice to be bullied aggressively, be permanently unemployed my whole adult life, whilst struggling because of it, who guess that to be the case, it is not like we did not go looking for work when we left school.

      • Futility of Melbourne

        Applying for anything in this place it does not matter how much effort you put, it is often futile, and this is only exacerbated by the pretentious hipsters in the inner city.

  253. Bye Melbourne

    Only take notice of you if you happen to either have money or are employed. They will give each other work but not you. They will act like they are a god because they are working and successful and you are not, powertrip they ignore you.

    Not a genuine bohemian in sight, the only work in the place is so boring. Anyone that does not look as sweet as them, of these fakes. Vindictive middle class have run Melbourne for years.

  254. Never scared

    Are the people that live in Melbourne brave, they use the word scary all the time. Maybe that is why they live the way they do.

  255. What does fascism look like?

    You can guarantee that the majority of people in Melbourne who succeed at all, are people who went to elite schools, Melbourne University, or had rich parents. So many of businesses are run by rich foreigners. Think about the majority of people who are famous or successful and most of them you read their biography and this is the case.-

    Barry Humphreys, rich parents, Melbourne University
    Germaine Greer, Melbourne University, probably rich parents
    James Gorman, went to Xavier, Melbourne University, you can guarantee he had rich parents if he had rich parents

    In my experience of the criminal rich people of Melbourne, is that Melbourne is a 1950s style elitist, pretentious, bogan hellhole, where only the bourgeoisie are allowed to succeed.

  256. Pretentious realities, pretentious rich people, super conservative

    Pretentious, Melbourne is rigged, maybe thanks to the American, what does oppression look like…If you thought otherwise.

  257. What choice, what decision

    You can guarantee the majority of the people, who succeed there went prestigious schools and had rich parents. Which is why they won’t let do anything in the place if you are lower-class. I decided to be victimised and abused by them after all.

  258. Invaders everywhere

    Wherever these people are from these days it must be the culture to be incredibly silly, superficial, shallow and narcissistic, and a far more competitive culture than our own.

  259. Southern Comforts and Hospitality

    In the southern parts of the country, resources seem to be few and far between and often you are supposed to think those who have those resources are better and superior to yourself.

    • Contemporary person in an increasingly backward world

      Full of old fashioned, elitists, pretentious people. Fully rigged society.

  260. Contemporary person in an increasingly backward world

    Full of old fashioned, elitists, pretentious people. Fully rigged society.

  261. People whose idea of fairness is like something out of a western. Depends on how dog eat dog and narcissism.

  262. Not sold-out yet, never will be

    For the most part the southern parts of this country are full of pretentious, rich, phonies, who have no integrity.

  263. Disadvantaged

    Full of a bunch of people with no penchant for batting for the underdog.

  264. Authoritarianism: plutocratic, police state

    Despotism of the rich people who run the place, the CIA reigns supreme in Melbourne and the south.

  265. CIA Town Melbourne

    If you rich you can get away with anything in Melbourne, be it man-slaughter or murder.

    • Melbourne is an awful and bitter city that just shits on every other city/state, it’s full of wannabes and has beens, everyone just whinges about everything daily, full of backstabbing bullies, most are narcissistic assholes and outright selfish.
      It is a miserable shit hole, graffiti covers everything, rubbish all over the streets, crap coffee everywhere you go it’s just boiling milk and bitter.
      Everyone living there has an addiction of some sort, most of the corporate world cheat on their partners, it’s a corrupt and dishonest place. It’s a rip off to live there and it’s just cold and windy!

  266. It's Pronounced "Mal-Bin" For a Reason

    Well well well…after months of the few things this foul city had going for it (galleries, bars, restaurants) in shutdown, it’s safe to say that the only things Melbourne has left are its cold crappy weather, dirty streets, boring bayside faux-beaches, and an unremarkable skyline punctuated by shitty dogboxes in badly-built vertical cruise ships (many of which are now empty with the influx of aspiring “new Australians” reduced to a trickle)….plus a socialist state government that has utterly mismanaged the spread of WuFlu. Listen out for that sucking sound after Lockdown 2.0 ends from the many people who will be moving to much-greener, less-polluted pastures. RIP Malbin

  267. Stupid hater

    Melbourne is to hot in summer to cold in winter and full of fucking idiots.
    This has became fact due to covid19.
    This has shown us the true character of these selfish c…nts.

    • hater of the dumb

      hope you all get the Chinese plague. Don’t come Queensland your not welcome jump the border we going to start shooting expect persecution because we hate idjits

    • Well said lol 🤣
      What a joke Melbourne is and they are all crying “poor me” now!…. you know I even have Melbournians whinging constantly that QLD shouldn’t get the AFL GF! That’s how crazy and selfish they are, why they don’t show any bloody appreciation for keeping the AFL season alive? I would guarantee if NSW or QLD were in this Covid mess right now could you imagine the excessive bullying, cruel jokes, harassment and shit Melbournians would be dishing out on every social platform? They would be so horrible.

      All they are is a corrupt city run by Labor morons and are controlled by the Unions. Every other state in Australia had the police and military manage the quarantine hotels, but no Melbourne had to go their own way and now look at this monumental f$&k up which will cost the country and tax payers even more money! How did they get away with this??
      Sadly they don’t care about anyone down there there isn’t any community feeling, they are selfish self centred people! Covid has really exposed them for who they are and just look at them now. They need to stop thinking they are better than everyone else and pull their heads in! You ain’t that special!

  268. This may shock you – not all Melbournians enjoy or even like football. Personally I can’t stand it. Also many of don’t read the rag newspapers & prefer to get our news online from reputable sources instead.
    Melbourne isn’t for everyone. Neither is any other Australian City.
    Personally I love the Melbourne weather. The top end doesn’t really have the great temperature changes Melbourne & Tasmania & often South Australia, have.
    It has been changed structurally over the years in the central business district & it’s certainly not all good. That said, there’s plenty of free Art at the National Art Gallery, theatre, Opera & other artistic & many fully immersive exhibits at the ACMI. The Melbourne Museum (although structurally & character wise is not a pinch of the old Museum, which was fully engaging with a massive dinosaur & different levels with balconies to look out from & character galore where dreams would run wild), it does okay.
    There are plenty of great restaurants of every nationality available across the city, into the suburbs. There are beautiful gardens in the heart of the city & elsewhere across the Metro reason, including the Dandenongs. There’s skiing in Winter, glorious beaches & lakes in Summer, with both Autumn & Spring bringing those wonderful winds & colours.
    The Nightlife is decent, if that’s your thing. Well it was years ago & before Covid-19.
    There’s the open Range Zoo in Werribee. The Melbourne Zoo in Parkdale & the ‘Human Zoo’ in the city where Humans congregate freely 🙂

    I went to Sydney. After seeing the Quay, Powerhouse museum etc, while it’s certainly beautiful, as is the Opera house, there wasn’t much to it. Was not somewhere I’d want to live.
    Now if I had asked a local to show me about I may have seen things differently.
    Melbourne is my home & like any other city some will like it & some won’t.
    There are changes I don’t like in my country including my city.
    I’ve been across a lot of Australia.
    Cairns is a beautiful place. Yet it also has its problems. Every city does.

    I’ll stay in Melbourne thanks. I wish you well wherever you live.

  269. Insular people of men (welcome to a country town)

    If you like conservative bourgesie hippies who are bogans, that have transformed conservative bourgesie people, try-hard materialistic hipsters who rednecks and bogans with agendas. Who just like Joe Biovi Pieterson are against anything being different and corrupt, espousing their conservatism, bourgeuism and hypocrisy. Try-hard Americanism, soullessness LA style, not bad for a generation of people who think they are superior to everyone else, driven and motivated by underlying agendas, because they are so arrogant, just like the hippies in the 60s and 70s. The ones by which the punks rebelled against their conservatism, as the hippies were the opposite more often to what they were supposed to be like, the hippies were anti-older people and pro-corporate as well. But what do you expect in this city, whereby young conservative bourgesie bigotted hippies keep moving to this city. Melbourne a country so materialistic and mercenary that you can get away with murder if you have adequate capital Melbournians are isolated people who have not realized that is not the reality elsewhere.

    • Nobody loves you in Melbourne?

      Melbourne fully discriminates on socio-economic status, whether you are different, or the same. You should be okay in Melbourne providing you are reasonably well to do, people think your intelligent, you are a conformist, behave preferably middle-class, compete against everybody as that is what they expect to have a decent job. Drivers license, years of experience, qualifications you have to be psychic to know what they are, the right vibe, impressing the people by conforming. All these expectations, your only as good as your last book, how many exhibitions you have had, who you know, how much of a name you have, what family you are born into, whether you know professionals that can help you, whether it is education or a job. Whose ass you have sucked up, but most likely if you are you are a customer or not their friend they won’t be as jovial to you. Aristocracy and melbourne after all and people question the democratic validity of Melbourne. Where else could you find such pompous people in charge, especially that serve you in shops, supremacists that they are. Condescension on us, you don’t want to be different in Melbourne it is not a city after all. Have you got cash, you want to do anything with your life here. Because everything is rigged to be expedient to the wealthy who make up stories about their past, just like America and Britain, which it is not like Europe it is like an insular country town.

      • Unauthentic: Square dancing

        The place is full of middle-class people and hipsters, but no-bohemian or white negro in sight, which it has an anti-policy towards, because of the middle-class people.

  270. Diluted alternativeness or bohemianism, brainwash and manipulation brigade from the 70s and 60s the millenials here that score lowly for originality. Why when they can play games, lie, ridicule and discredit people and the public. Melbourne an outpost for the CIA or their experimental base.

  271. I'm middle-class

    Melbourne these days is the ultimate conservatism and bourgeuismwde of the hippies. It is all too weird for the country folk of Melbourne, hence the reality of this place, it is a complete bore.

  272. Fascism: the rich in Melbourne and their ongoing 1970s hippy class warfare

    Social order, it’s retaining certain people and oppressing other people such as myself, who are staunchly bohemian such as myself keeping them down. In my experience of not being able to do things in Melbourne. Now you see in the last decade in such films as the dark Knight rises the promotion of the bourgeuism and capitalism obviously the powers that be are so neurotic and paranoid these days. If you are one of the fake rich millennial things you may be okay. From my experience of rejection and not being allowed to do things has well and truly been going on longer than the last decade, this social manipulation in Melbourne.

  273. Melbourne is about being rich

    Melbourne is about being rich, that’s why such things as barry humpreys and bali nine have come out of melbourne. That is why rich people can get away with murder literally in Melbourne.

  274. Rich inmates

    Remember oscar pistorius, oj simpson that would never happen in Melbourne the court would let them go supposedly why it is the cultural capital of the world.

  275. The real melbourne experience

    Being the rich and class. I am sure this is where its reputation is derived from. All I know is as someone who is poor I have had a hard time doing things. Upper-class girls why because they are rich. Well you can’t argue with that or the fake confident alpha male rich people in this place with all their domineeringness. They did not get where they are today through being genuinely nice and decent and not domineering. Alpha male successful and make money those with those aided and abetted with them. Mr Pleasant from the kinks. All for their persona.

  276. Melbourne experience

    Unless you have the experience of being turned down for not being a millennial and bourgeuis. Unless you have dealt with the most pretentious, fake, elitist, exclusive people you have ever come across in your life you are not a real Melbournian. Unless you have been manipulated through the agendas of gentrification. Had your neighborhood been invaded by elitist rich people and bourgeuisie people you can’t be from Melbourne. That want to get rid of people as awful as yourself as a kind of 1970s hippy class warfare than you can’t say you are from Melbourne, supremacists of Melbourne. Better people are not yourself, that’s supposedly of why it is cultured.

  277. Conditional freedoms

    If there is freedom it is only there if you are rich preferably.

  278. Life in Melbourne

    Path of most-resistance only way to get anywhere in Melbourne it is a competition.

  279. Cultural change

    All rich people are like Donald Trump, Gina Rhinehart, Clive Palmer, Andrew twiggy Forrest, but in Melbourne you are supposed to worship and respect them

  280. Oblivious how did they get there to begin with

    There is obviously a narcissism that comes with being rich

    • Peasant in the medium sized shitty

      The supposedly upper-classes espouse such opinions that you swear their pretending, that they could not possibly really think that. Just akin to a vindictive mob, they put up by friends and told to do that, which is where their opinions are from.

  281. Social fabric and obedience, where is your autonomy

    Aparently the reason there is no freedom anymore is because of political correctness, which is what people think in Melbourne, but I have a different theory that it is instead because the rich and powerful, those wield authority such as people born into rich or who have good connections or are particularly lucky such as inheriting.

    • Money is an illusion in Melbourne greed as well

      Obviously money is power in Melbourne as they are only people who have say or autonomy, obviously this is the rationale in Melbourne as it is especially true in Melbourne

  282. Melbourne is worse than a form of fascism!!!!!!

    It is the elitist, pompous, snobby, class warfare, bourgeosie supremacist, fascist, elitist, exclusive, old fashioned, anti-modernist, born with a silver spoon in their mouth, ruling elite hippies and hipsters and criminals that run Melbourne with an iron fist who expect everyone to be the same that are seriously the problem in Melbourne, that are power-trippers. Who do not share in this place except with their bourgeoisie friends in Melbourne. But the people who run Melbourne who are mostly part cow.

  283. Reality of life

    This is where Melbourne comes in handy, it’s class system can remind people of Europe, which is carbon copied from New York that also thinks it is European.

  284. Melbourne is the 1970s during the hippy era and the class warfare forever

    Melbourne where it always resembles the 1970s and the hippy class war. Whether it is the total emphasis on conformity, or having to have a full-time job, or being forced to be a bourgeoisie person, or wealthy, absolute and total emphasis on conformity, so hippy class warfare. Either by your contacts, or what family you are born into, whether you have succeeded beforehand, having no-where to start, whilst a bunch of elitist brats who are narrow-minded and old-fashioned abnd red-necked rule the place with an iron-fist.

  285. Arrogant hipsters

    The problem with Melbourne is the rich hippies from the 1970s who rule the place with an iron fist. Pretentious hippies aka hipsters, who are fake and materialistic and deliberate and calculated.

  286. Flower bourgeoisie aka hipster things, who are inadvertently fascists not that they care.

  287. Hippy ass-holes

    Melbourne where it is always, the 1970s, during the hippy class war of that decade.

  288. This is Melbourne

    What are you supposed to do when the place is a full of a bunch of hippy ass-holes from the 1970s, hence how affluent they are?

  289. Melbourne and Sydney have become the same

    The heartless dickheads, only caring about you or thinking you have value as a person if you have money, the horrible pretentious people is very much akin to Sydney, then they say the place is not vibrant it could be because of the horrible pretentious hippies aka hipsters.

  290. Yup it’s such a shithole. As if it could get worse we are the only place in the entire world that is still in a lockdown as of September. It’s depressing how much I hate this place.

  291. Is this hippie idealism and democracy Melbourne

    Melbourne is not a normal city, where you can do things with your life. New age yuppies or hippies, have taken Melbourne over since the last decade they are self-serving, dog-eat-dog, greedy, materialistic, bourgeoisie, insular, conservative, contrary to stereotypes. Is this all part of their idealism, this dystopian bullshit, it is oppressive, it is authoritarian.

    People like to have these conversations, where they like to talk about how the people are not nice in Sydney, yet the paradox is Melbourne has some of the most evil people in Australia, perhaps even the world. And the place Melbourne is supposed to resemble most, is also notorious for its evil people, this is one of things that made David Bowie leave New York for a little while, but the evil people of Melbourne. There are parallels between Melbourne and Nimbin, which Nimbin is also a depressing hellhole and a strange place

    • “Notorious for it’s evil people”. Have you even been to Melbourne, or are you just sitting on your ass writing shit about other countries.

  292. Melbourne is authoritarian

    Melbourne is full of these part cow, rural dictators, which is only exacerbated by the fact, that unlike most parts of Australia, where the majority of people are atheist, pagan or secular, in Melbourne the major of people are conservative Christians, Neo Nazi’s or satanists. To top it all off the majority of people are elitists from other parts of the world. And you wonder why there is no democracy in Melbourne.

    I personally can not do things because the majority of people are crazy and insular as can be, because the majority are rural dictators.

    • Secular and Australian

      Melbourne is not like other parts of Australia whereby the population is mostly made up of people who are predominantly atheist, secular and pagan. In Melbourne most of the population is protestant or conservative Christian and 99% of the population is religious so if you think the people are insular and judgemental compared to other parts of Australia. That is because of most of the population being extremely conservative religious people.

      • You do not need to make up American style conspiracy theories like the yanks as here is the truth of Melbourne

        It all depends how appealing you find a population made up of dickheads and wierdos, elitists and bogans to be. And for maphias conman yeah that’s fine if you can get work in the place due to the preponderance of dickhead wierdo bogans in the place who are mostly power-tripping, authoritarian try-hard australians. If you can’t relate to them and your ideas are totally different to theirs and then there is blasted weather. Every try-hard and control-freak, authoritarian redneck and their dog calls Melbourne orstralia home, from the CIA whose vindictive and cruel and wealthy calls Melbourne home alongside their vicious dangerous dog. No wonder people such as Julian Assange have nicknamed Melbourne CIA town and could not wait to leave the place. Have you got money?
        That is they want to know in Melbourne and if you have money they treat and think differently about you as there are so many Americans in Melbourne and few genuinely Ozzie people and they do not think like someone that is Australian. This is why Melbourne is an autocracy run by despots.

  293. Cunt, I know I’m late to this ragging of probably my most hated city in existence, but fuck me, as a Tweed local, that line absolutely sent me. Fuck Melbourne, Tweed Cooly forever

  294. Melbourne is not egalitarian or Australian

    Melbourne is full of these well-to-do fake millennial brats these days. This makes it not a particularly pleasant place. Having lived in other parts of Australia this trend of these horrible, incredibly insular, mercenary greedy materialistic pompous millennial brats is not normal. The problem is that our government these fake millennial brats and their mates wealthy with the building industry in Melbourne and they are so up themselves. Although there has been a building industry elsewhere because of Melbourne’s increasingly materialistic greedy pretentious culture because of the bogans in Melbourne these days.

    • I am not a capitalist or yankee

      There is only one thing that matters to these people because most of these people are American and that is whether you have money and then they think you have a brain if you have money.

      • Melbourne is un-Australian and about greed

        Of being full of such awful materialistic people in Melbourne who are try-hard Australian bogans.

      • Pretentious ass end of the world

        Heaps of people in Melbourne not many of them generally Australian. The focus in Melbourne is greed and materialism and pretentious or how intelligent the dickheads in the place think you to be. You are an outlier if you are not focused on this. If you think that those with more money should rule over those with less than Melbourne is a good place to live. Remembering that money and culture are considered to the same thing here and money rules in Melbourne.

      • Plastic fake greedy materialistic ass end of the world

        Melbourne is about how much money people have these days, as there are plenty of ass-hole bogans who are mostly phoneys and try-hard and not many genuine australians. Devils advocate preacher bigots dominate some of them Christian which is why they are so insular.

  295. Welcome to Melbourne

    Melbourne is the greed, materialism, pretention ass end of the world.

  296. Class warfare from the hippies in 1970s Melbourne style

    It is strictly based on how much money you have in Melbourne what culture is. Whether it is the caviar, ordeve’s and fine red wine that is very old. Fine cheese on the barbecue. Mercedes benz paradoxical given the drivers of these vehicle. BMWs, hideous 4x4s. Don’t get me wrong Melbourne used to be in the old days a good place to live before the pretentious ass-holes took over the entire place. If you are one of them a mansion in overpriced Crimeville.

  297. Materialistic Melbourne

    I think this normalizing of greed and being insular and elitist in Melbourne is wrong.

  298. No culture, it's money culture

    Melbourne has the most insular people and it’s the most greedy, materialistic and pretentious place I have ever been.

  299. Melbourne's social order

    Melbourne is full of these spies from the CIA that well to do. Most of them are from London. They are deliberately there to stop people from too alternative or radical. And when you go to apply for things they will generally reject you. They are about maintaining the status quo, social cohesion and control. Are about promoting certain things such as bourgeuisism and it is all got to do with their underlying conservatism and authoritarianism. Which is why they such obvious double-standards and expectations, as they have a hidden-agenda.

  300. Why no choices in Melbourne

    That is right Melbourne is anti-alternative and radical. Why because most of the people are the conservative class warfare hippies of the 1970s who are obsessed with normality.

  301. Melbourne is rigged and current program is vindictive

    If you ever wonder why Melbourne operates the way it does and why Melbourne is full of such conservative, insular people who just won’t let you do things. It is because Melbourne is full of these class-warfare hippies from the 1970s. This is why they do things they do and have the expectations they have with all their double-standards. Stereotypes over reason, money and convention over ability and talent. Right now what these dickheads with their current wave of gentrification is a form of revenge its about vengeance on people like myself.

    • Control freaks of Melbourne

      One of the things that came out of the Economic Intelligence Unit was that Melbourne is democratic because it was supposedly tolerant to dissenters of this society. Melbournians are in reality tolerant to dissenters of this society. Why do I think this I can tell you that as a radical, alternative type of young person in Melbourne in the 2000s and trying to do things and build a life for myself, Melbourne has zero tolerance to dissenters of this society. Much of the double-standards, opinions are a reflection of its zero tolerance to dissenters of this society. In fact the attitudes to dissenters of this society is a throw-back to the hippy era.

  302. Melbourne is full of 1970s style conservative think-tank people. These people are about maintaining the social structure and authoritarian and arrogant. They have said they are middle-class people who want to be upper-class. These people are sneaky, they are pompous, vulgar and cruel. They are the Donald Trump’s of Australia. You have aggressiveness or competitive in much the same way that Donald Trump’s ancestors must of been. These people are not classy. They are people who want to climb up the social ladder. They are people who want to push others out of the way. Contrary to stereotypes your typical coalition voter is a young or working person, whose a bigot and preferably wants to be wealthy whose middle-class.

  303. Pretentious load of non-sense ass end of the world

    The problem with Melbourne, is the problem many places these days, Melbourne has been taken over by the most vulgar, pretentious and cruel people you can possibly imagine. Think about the bullying on such a scale which never existed except for during the 1950s. These people are totally backward.

    • All the wrong people

      The problem our government through their relentless and incessant development is making bogan s head scumbag developers wealthier and wealthier. Including the a hole drug-addicted tradies and builders who are often complete bogans.

      • Brickies laborers

        Who just like footballers are not nice people often, because they are dickheads.

  304. Overly Hipster Melbourne

    Melbourne has never been the same since the last decade and inner-city suburbs became too hip, or hippy, hipster. What is a hippy besides a trendy and hence a conformist. These people they started by playing John Lennon songs on rotation and looped. And their other favourite being middle of the road eighties synthesizer music repetitiously and nothing but. In the very early stages these particularly greedy, dodgy people displayed a keen like for Fleetwood Mac, Jimmy Hendrix and other hippy music. Now these well-to-do, materialistic, status-orientated hippies after all who has more money and greater levels all look the same as each other. I am tired of this we are just living in the 1970’s during the hippy era since the 1990’s. It is evident the reason the world is the way it is these days is because of these flower children. These people as they oft are well-to-do far right Christians will not get tested for Covid-19 attributable to their conspiracy theories. They are evidently trying to brainwash the public, just like the hippies in the 1970’s.

  305. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Gentrification making a place less pleasant. In Melbourne this when a bunch of fashionable bourgeoisie rich people who are phoneys and wankers invade en mass. Oh I guess the government places these people there as they have more money. These people perform a form of social engineering. They are demon-like pitch-fork trendies who try and drive the original inhabitants out and they tend to all look the same. As trophy hunters of fashionable real estate I for one prefer something else, hence I do not enjoy Melbourne. What is a hippy after-all a conformist to fashion.

  306. Scheme of things (life in Melbourne)!

    The competitive job market of global capitalism and everything else, with all its vulgarity. Gentrification and its agendas and liars. Social policy turned on its head. Narrow-minded anti-poor people, who have more money and power than you do. Why would they hire anyone as unpleasant as you, whose poor. In what they think is improvement. Do these people do anything to improve the lives of those who already lived there, no they look after themselves, no. 1. I can say as someone who has always struggled to obtain work or do anything in Melbourne, they invariably are insular, uncooperative and look after themselves and this is why Melbournian’s lives do not move forward, and poverty exists in Melbourne. Its the domination of those with power, authority and wealth in Melbourne, who have a 1970s hippy class warfare mentality.

  307. Melbourne it is how you look and seem

    When I moved to Melbourne in the 1990s they had a thing about holes in clothes in school. This type presentation importance and behaviour makes a difference to your life, how you come across.

  308. Melbourne is a trap for the poor (don't move there unless you want to permanently poor and unemployed)

    Where’s mine?

    You hop on a train, you hear these dickheads, talk about picking on the poor. These started people started it, f them, I want autonomy. That’s Melbourne, I once walked into somewhere, where I was told there was work, and I was rejected. They told me there was no work at the moment, I was dressed in a Japanese Kimono and I noticed that all the girls who worked there looked the same. Same as in, same height, same hair-style.

    Whether its a pro-corporate agenda, rich persons agenda, how the world should be according to them. Think two Coles in the smallest suburb of Melbourne. Think far-right people from the USA all people with agendas they are. Ulterior motives I am not one of these people. Sense, lack of sensibleness. I am not one of them. Whilst they make lots of money they like to advantage of other people. Only the genius ones are allowed to do things, people of a certain class bracket. While they can battle it on in domineering macho ways, about whose will run and control Melbourne. Be the Kings and Queens of Melbourne and this is the things and its not me, and I am not allowed to do things in Melbourne.

    How intelligent they think people are, which class bracket you are from and not me. Unfortunately they are narrow-minded or they pretend to be, I am not an elitist or a supremacist and I just want to do things with my life, and make a living and people in Melbourne won’t let you, and it’s not me. Why I would I decide to be permanently on a Disability Support Pension and it is not me?

    I am not a criminal, I am not a bad person, I have noticed in Melbourne some people have the most ridiculous expectations and they are so narrow-minded or pretend to be.

    Its not mine, it is yours?

  309. What is it like to work in Melbourne?

    Bad vibes man. You have no experience, you unemployed dastard. And we don’t think you are very intelligent. Can you get a job in Melbourne or anything else, swift answer no. As they sit there with their ass up in the air, and tell you this.

  310. Sydney is Melbourne

    I think they relegate you according to how intelligent they think you are, according to your socioeconomic status. Then they use the class-system as a form of vengeance in Melbourne. And this is why Melbourne, operates the way it does?

    It is not a place where you can just go to live and make decisions and do things with Melbourne, as Melbourne is rigged by the people who run it. Who are mostly phoneys. I recall my step-dad years ago, saying that the people in Sydney were as hard as can be. But the thing is Melbourne is full of people that are from Sydney, who are hard as can be.

    And at the end of the day Melbourne is full of pretentious people, who know nothing about its past, poseurs you could call them. Have never read Alan Marshall’s In My Own Heart, and are creating a city which is very much like Sydney increasing and is the hole. With people that use their authority to get back at people, back at people they are jealous of, or have annoyed them. This is the thing, the people in Melbourne are as hard as can be.

  311. Melbourne is Sydney

    Anywhere in Australia, isn’t Melbourne or Sydney the people are a bit fairer and more genuinely nice often. Sydney are just not nice, people in Melbourne are not nice, nasty, evil people of Melbourne.

  312. Sydney is Melbourne

    When I moved Melbourne in the 1990s it was more akin to Berlin, London, New York, but nowadays Melbourne is more akin to Los Angeles or Sydney, or somewhere else that is notorious for its phoneys and douche-bags, would never move back to Melbourne. God only knows what someone what someone Seattle or somewhere else where the people are not pompous and have more decency would think of Melbourne nowadays?

  313. Melbourne is Sydney (It used to be different)

    The same empty vibe of Los Angeles, the same deliberateness of Los Angeles, the same superficiality as Los Angeles. The same social order and culture as Los Angeles. The same lack of grit and nerve and style as Los Angeles, or Sydney. Same inelegance as Los Angeles in Melbourne these days.

  314. Sydney is Melbourne (we are all together man)

    These people do not think I am very intelligent, due to a Los Angeles style superficiality these days. The social order in Melbourne is akin o something from Los Angeles these days.

  315. Old time problems of Melbourne

    Good luck with being able to do things in Melbourne. The people in Melbourne talk so remarkably highly of themselves. If they insult you and put you done, and are us versus you, it is probably they have such high opinion of themselves. Superiority complex of authoritarian bourgeoisie people. Remember Geelong Grammar taught their students, taught their students, nothing, but they are superior to others. And this is the problem with Melbourne and Victoria, they do not others could be as good as themselves by a long stretch.

    • Even though its not the case anywhere else in Australia, except for Sydney and Melbourne hence the more genuine, nicer people on average.

  316. Social super glue

    Imagine a city where the corporations are headed by people who are either middle-class and come across that way or they are affluent beforehand and from affluent suburbs, wow that is Melbourne. This is not normal this is the fabric of Melbourne.

  317. This place Melbourne is not a democracy

    Donald Trump is like the people in Melbourne, who take advantage of their privilege and power and use it against other people such as myself, especially those that are vulnerable.

  318. Power games Melbourne

    What will Donald Trump do after he is president, is obvious he will render himself untouchable with his power and privilege like he has his whole life. The paradox is the people in Melbourne are the same as this. Push his weight around like the people in Melbourne with power and privilege.

  319. Narcissism and Melbourne

    Melbourne is un-Australian the people in the city are inclined to undermine others and not give other people a fair go. Also Melbourne is full of people these days, that only one objective in life these days and that is to be rich. Melbourne has been infiltrated by greedy, materialist people who are egocentric and cruel and lack compassion, with one objective and that is to be rich. It is all about power. It is not hard to fathom why someone would therefore decide whose young or middle-aged or older who does not share the values and ways of these people would be running off to the regional parts of this country, these people are narcissists.

  320. Exclusivity Incorporated

    Whether its denying other people opportunities or the potential for a decent quality of life, which is abusive that is Melbourne. I have notice over the years they have their bottom up in the air, the people in Melbourne are ostracising snobs, it is along class-lines, it is because of their ridiculous expectations and it is because they are phoneys.

    If you don’t share the values with the people in Melbourne which are very elitist, or have nothing in common with the people in Melbourne or their ways, their ways of going about life and doing things, you may not be alone.

  321. How the world operates greed and materialism and it’s all about power?

  322. The reason Melbourne is the way it is, is because of the people, the rich people, the people with power, the corporations, the people with vested interests and agendas.

  323. They do not

    Corporations are supposed to make jobs and you know I have never had a paid job, in spite these corporations being there.

  324. They do not

    Who wants to go work for a corporation, or you can be exploited by a business instead in Melbourne.

  325. America. Everywhere that’s not Melbourne. What rights do you think you have saying all this shit about the city. Yes the weather may be awful at times but it doesn’t change the fact that all of the people here, commenting crap about the city, when your state/and or country is just as bad. So stop, because you just look stupid. Dumb fucks.

  326. Flower-children of Melbourne

    If you happen to be a narrow-minded, cynical, old-fashioned, authoritarian, then Melbourne maybe the place for you.

  327. I am not a hippy

    I forgot to add elitist.

  328. Ufck Ihppies: I want autonomy

    Whilst displaying the most annoying traits of the hippies their conservatism. Which for someone radical and bent as myself I find intolerable. A teddy sounds heavy how tolerant they are. Brainwash them make them pro-corporate and bourgeoisie, and obedient.

  329. Obliterated Melbourne

    Political incorrectness is not freedom, having autonomy in society is freedom. What is autonomy, being able to do what you want with your life, having choices. These things you don’t have in Melbourne, you know who has autonomy is Melbourne the stock market, the rich. Melbourne is a strange place the people are uncooperative and will not give you a fair-go, unless you are one of their mates, or you’re one of them. If you’re a rich country hick welcome to Melbourne, you will succeed, you will fit in perfectly. And I am not one of them. And I am not part of them and their lack of minding their own business and their agendas and I am tired of being poor. Antifa, anarchist that’s me, I want to burn the American flag. Where’s mine, maybe we can share it. As a genuine bohemian I hate Melbourne. See it go up in smoke with all its self-importance. It’s sky-high ego. That means you can not do things with your life due to the domineering egos of certain people, hence no autonomy. Although they are not the most reasonable people and they won’t give you a fair-go they are the most domineering.

  330. Melbourne is not normal

    They will talk of things going back to normal after covid-19, the only thing in Melbourne is their idea of normal, at least since the 1990’s is bizarre. For most of people that have ever tried to do things in this place, with all the pretence and snobbery and narrow-minded, Melbourne is not normal.

  331. Melbourne is strange and Melbournian's are strange

    For a certain percentage of the population the chances of being able to get work, or be able to do anything is zero. Melbourne is not normal, after covid-19 that ain’t changed. Use when people were unwell when they were younger, against them for the rest of their life.

  332. Melbourne is not normal

    Melbournian’s are fucking wierdos.

  333. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Gentrification making it impossible for the original people, to obtain work and do anything with their lives. Whilst the people who think their better than anyone else, take the jobs and businesses in the place. Wake up Melbourne.

  334. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    In their aim of reducing the original inhabitants, whilst richer people take over.

  335. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Living next-door to cunts is supposedly more pleasant. Gentrification is a process very much like colonialism.

  336. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Things that middle-class people like, multinational corporate cuisine and corporate banks, as they are the only employers. Places for the middle-class to buy home loans. See the paradox. Multinational this, that, over-priced independent businesses. Things middle-class people like. Social order that has never existed before.

  337. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Apparently vulgar, ubiquitous multinationals and businesses and weirdness is more pleasant. This is the thing, but I remember my uncle saying that dogs can not smell themselves, thinking that they smell good, when they smell like shit.

  338. Suburban invasion in the inner-city

    The invaders in Melbourne, are middle-class people from the suburbs, being hippies, it is a matter of trying to destroy your self-worth, convince you that you are not a capable person, destroy your self-esteem. They do not have much integrity.

  339. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive) P.S. I am an inheritor too

    I must say that where we live now, is a vast improvement, they don’t tell you lies about being from Hobart. When they are actually from Heidelberg, for the instance the scumbag that lives next-door to our best friend. And again it is ironic as these middle-class people think the worst people, and the biggest douche-bags you have ever come across in your entire life is more pleasant, who are often liars.

  340. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    Gentrification has made Melbourne weirder over the decades either how the place operates, or the vibe of the place, with its excessive layers of gentrification. Where we live now is not gentrified in such a vile way as Melbourne. Melbourne is just nowadays, an oversized suburban hell-hole.

  341. Melbourne you have no autonomy

    I was born during the punk rock era, and I have found that back then that people more open-minded, much more likely to give you a fair-go, let you do your own thing, had less ulterior motives and agendas, you were more free express yourself, it was okay to be different. The thing that is since somewhere like Melbourne has been taken over by elitist, bourgeoisie supremacist, narrow-minded, old-fashioned, cynical, controlling bastards with ulterior motives. I say you had more freedom back then, because you had more autonomy, even as a poor person, less pretension and snobbery back then and the people were more open-minded. Censorship, this is not okay, because of what these people have done over past decades you can not do anything anymore, you have no autonomy, in this people’s manipulative ways. Small slice of liberty that Ian Dury talks about in a song such as ‘Sex n Drugs and Rock n Roll.’ Do I miss it, god no, being restricted and limited because of my radical ideas and my socioeconomic status and what certain old-fashioned, narrow-minded dastards think of you.

  342. What do you know about poverty Melbourne

    The people from the UK think there is no class system in Australia, because if you were to do the same job in the UK, you would get less money and not be respected. Try spending years not being able to get work and not being able to things, based on being fussy due to being from the country and not doing things how these people want you to and being poor due to it. Being disrespected and being rejected probably based on not being bourgeoisie a common experience for many Australia. This country is non-sense these days.

    You make your citizens poor through not giving them a fair-go, especially if they are not middle-class and there they are stuck forever.

  343. Melbourne creates poverty

    Melbourne creates poverty.

  344. Decency in short supply in Melbourne (can not make an honest living in Melbourne)

    Kathy Don an integrity lacking, greedy lady originally brought-up in Kew. All these wretched people in Melbourne, and it is surprising that some of the least integrity having, phoneys you have ever come across in your entire life, who are elitist and greedy and you know where they are from the most middle-class suburban places, such as Kew, some of them.

  345. Gentrification making a place less pleasant (and more expensive)

    First it was the people with the Suv’s in Northcote, now the forms of gentrification, involve douche-bags that are from the middle-class suburbs of Melbourne and are extremely greedy. You imagine that somewhere such as Windsor used to full of working-class tailors, not anymore. Now it is people that are dishonest, selfish and motivated by greed purely. And create an obvious class-system based on how much money people have. Even if you are scummy criminal or a shithead you are still supposed to be respected as you have money.

  346. Worst people in Melbourne

    Years ago in Melbourne somebody wrote ‘Scumbag Millionaire,’ on a wall in Northcote in the 2000’s. That was when ‘Slumdog millionaire,’ was a hit in cinemas, I say less relevant these days such words in Melbourne scrawled across a wall.

  347. Most people in Melbourne are not Australian's and they are from New-Zealand

    The majority in Melbourne are originally from New-Zealand. I think this is the problem. I remember a British guy online that he hated New-Zealand and New-Zealander’s were the most narrow-minded people on earth. And unlike Britain in New-Zealand you were not allowed to do anything.

    I really hope that the Melbourne economy goes to hell, because the majority of people in Melbourne are arrogant, lying, got no integrity, phoneys. Melbourne is really in reality a fascist state. Full of a bunch ignorant, superficial hipsters and straight middle-class people who do not know what they are talking about. The basic truth is Melbourne is run with an iron-fist by a group of ruling elite bourgeoisie people who are phoneys. These are not democratic or fair people, they are people who hold onto power with an iron-fist.

    • The problem with Melbourne

      My sister’s ex he was full of these cliche stereotypes about things from Melbourne. Melbourne has a serious neo-nazi, red-neck hipster problem. What these people have to realize in Melbourne is that stereotypical ideas are not always correct. It is full of these red-neck, neo-nazi’s who are not from Melbourne. These people have a hell of a lot of superficial, stereotypical knowledge and a dearth of actual knowledge in this town of a city.

      • Ugly bogans of Melbourne

        Melbourne is a strange city run by a bunch of rich people who will do things such as murder homosexuals and laugh about it to their girlfriends. They will go to the judge and pay them off to get away with it

  348. Melbourne has a neo-nazi problem

    Melbourne is especially red-neck even by Australian standards. In New-Zealand there was a punk band that was part of the Dunedin Sound that had a song, called ‘Doledrums,’ that was about living off the dole.

  349. Too many wankers in Melbourne

    Melbourne is full of wankers that talk about picking on the poor, wankers who call people slow, wankers who tell people to get jobs, wankers who play games with people, wankers that lie and think along stereotypical lines when convenient. Creepy, dislikeable wankers. Pretentious judgemental wankers.

    • Wankers of Melbourne

      Talk about outsmarting people wankers. Talk about how stupid they think people are wankers.

      • Melbourne is hell

        The people in Melbourne will confront you and say where you are staying, how do they know this.

  350. People in Melbourne knows everyone else's business

    This is okay in Melbourne these people do not mind their own business in Melbourne. Why mention were you are staying, that you are unemployed. These people have serious problems with boundaries and they are about power.

  351. Most people in Melbourne are not Australian's and they are from New-Zealand

    Melbourne has a serious neo-nazi problem and problem with red-necks.

  352. Melbourne is very bigoted

    Metal-heads don’t like grunge not because of the music, but because of the members of the grunge movement being unemployed. Grunge took its cues from punk, hence the rate of unemployment.

  353. Melbourne is bigoted

    Apart from this, they looked like street-bums which is also taken from the punk movement. Whereas the metal was less bohemian and was derived from the hippy movement, hence the more excessive, pompous and glamorous elements.

  354. What people I do not prefer

    Superficial, stereotypical thinking, wankers

  355. How the world operates

    It is not how it works, yeah by your logic you would not be allowed to do anything with your life or only certain people could.

  356. Allow me to introduce a place to you Donald Trump, it is called Melbourne, Victoria, Australia you will be at home (you will wonder how you ever lived in Florida)

    Donald Trump says he will leave America if he loses, he should move to Melbourne he would fit in perfectly. The rich people and powerful in Melbourne are not far from Donald Trump.

  357. You say you would leave America Donald Trump, perfect location for you Donald

    Donald, Melbourne a city full of evil, authoritarian, rich people, who are phoneys just like yourself, introduce Donald to Melbourne. Dastardly egocentric just like Donald in Melbourne. That try and outsmart people or cheat them of their rights Donald in Melbourne, just like you.

  358. umm ive lived in melbourne my entire life, i also think the weather is crazy, but we dont have to have outfit changes all the time, and i think this person is over exaggerating about the weather bruh. it aint thatbad. Sure you might need a jacket once in a while but it aint that bad. No, we arent on our toes all the time,and some pele in the comments are even saying we are evil or stuck up. For a fact, i definetly do not want Donald Trumpet moving to Melbourne. We arent all rich like a comment says, we are all trying just to live our live sheesh.. You actually have to live in Melbourne or Victoria to actually findout how its like.

  359. i dont care what yall think, you actually have to live there or at least stay there a a long period of time to find out. i lived in Melborne my entire life and i dont think its that bad. This person is just exaggerating problems about it. Its run by people and all people arent perfect, so you cant just get a perfect city which aint that old. Dont judge a place if you dont live in it, or at least stayed there for a long period of time. I dont judge the US or any other country from just looking at the media. You have to experience staying there first.

  360. ive spent all 20 years of my life here
    save me please

  361. Anyone that denies that they are that bad, must be that bad

    We have been taken over by these right-wing hippies since the 1990s. Hence the exclusivity and elitism.

  362. No-one thinks they are as bad as what they are

    You want to spend years being unemployed in this place, for no other reason, but you are poor and the people are so narrow-minded and be discriminated against and I am sure your opinion would be different. Want to spend years being rejected whilst trying to do things here.

  363. Look mate, no-one thinks they are as bad as what they are, hence most people do not have problems with anxiety or depression

    I personally do not think these comments are damning enough, Melbourne is an elitist, exclusive, hell-hole. I reckon you are talking from the perspective from someone that is not a poor person in this country.

  364. Melbourne is right-wing

    You are probably one of the luckier people who has managed to do something with their life in this place. Which is not the case for many poor people in Melbourne. Who does not understand why people struggle, or think it is their own fault, or choice.

  365. No-self-awareness

    Conveniently you have no-self-awareness.

  366. Conveniently no-self-awareness

    There is a survey from the beginning of this decade that points out people have been discriminated against because of their class. Melbourne it is so bad that you can not even get a job if you are a poor person in my experience or anything else. Made it elsewhere, helping their children or their friends make it in the world, I have seen it all.

  367. Pure Wankerthon

    Better looking, and more intelligent, the conceited, arrogant wankers that seem to be the case every odd numbered decade. More people with money and power after-all, that are after changing the Melbourne landscape who will continue on some of the same tripe that has made life hard for you, for the last thirty years. There really is fair-nothing in Australia, especially nowadays.

  368. Melbourne is no-different

    The reason that people’s lives do not move forward in Australia is the people won’t give you a fair-go.

  369. Convenient memory

    You’re probably one of the many crystal meth takers in the last decade, coupled with a lack of self-awareness, hence convenient memory.

  370. Inequality: Not everyone's experience is the same

    But some people are born more inheritors, those well-connected, have family members that can help them in life, those that are brought-up middle-class. Those who are luckier, have no-one that wants to bring them down. Some people are more competitive than others. Some are treated differently to others. Inequality.

  371. Drug-abusing elite

    The elite or bourgeoisie are the biggest drug-abusers, so it is probably natural that they do not recall what they have done, often.

  372. Life these days

    Corporate advertising everywhere you go, corporations erected to create jobs in Melbourne. Bland facelessness of newer businesses that are there to replace older ones. Luxury cars that they drive around in, as a status symbol. Look in the paper for jobs as a directive for you to do the same. Designer bags that must of cost a fortune. Try getting a job if you are from the poor side of town. Other businesses and people conform strictly to fashion and what others say.

  373. Melbourne and Australia and the greed bug

    The developments never end and people steal from where they work as they driven by greed.

  374. Who on earth would live in Melbourne? I’m a born and bred melbournian and I’m actually embarrassed. The last five years I’ve really seen it go down hill, and to top it off We are currently in our fourth lockdown here… no other Australian state has had to endure the Bs we’ve had to go through. Incompetent and corrupt leadership. Am So tempted to move up north … get a life melb folks there is more to it than talking about afl and sports. This isn’t even a topic of conversation in Sydney because everyone there is actually living life (I’ve lived there) and able to enjoy the great outdoors because you CAN👋

    • Yes! A fellow Melburnian who is on the same page as me! You echoed all of my thoughts from point to point. You really did. It’s so refreshing to know I’m not alone. I wish you very well in escaping and starting a new, fabulous life!

  375. Melbourne. What can i say? 46 years of living in the Nanny State. Full of rude, arrogant and selfish people. About 10 years behind on all forms of infrastructure. Coffee snobs and “gotta tell everyone” vegans. Gangs from numerous nations taking over. Then the Covid shit. Have fun with Mr. Andrews. Glad i moved to Perth. Never been happier.

  376. I lived in London for 2 years which is renowned for it’s shit weather but then I moved to Melbourne when i got back cause my girlfriend is from this unspeakable shithole and i have to say Melbourne weather makes London look almost balmy!!! Melbourne weather is just shit after shit and then more shit. The worst thing about the weather in this godforsaken shithole isn’t the rain or the cold, it is the motherfucking depressing winds!!! imagine emerging from a bleak as fuck winter and then before spring has even started the cunting 24/7 gale force winds start, not just for a day or 2 but every fucking day for the whole fucking spring!!!. the temperature could be perfect 22-24 degrees but utterly ruined by winds that nearly blow you off your feet and you can hardly wait to get back inside again only to hear the winds moaning and groaning ouitside, freaking depressing!! the summer hits and if we get a heatwave 40 degrees plus you feel like your stepping into a windblasted furnace, total hell!!! then you see the poor possums dead on the footpath cause they can’t regulate their body temp and they just fall dead out of the trees, fucking depressing!!! but most melbournians gon’t seem to give a shit about them, once climate change takes hold good and proper most of our marsupials will become extinct, totally fucking depressing!!!. As long as the average melbournian has a few bottles of booze in the fridge and a wretched fucking AFL game to watch then they are happy. Then there is the overdeveloment only beaten by brisbane in this department, Aussie seem only too happy to lose whatever heritage and charm/character we once had and replace it all with souless pre fabricated concrete shitboxes, property developers are fucking worthless skidmarks driving around in their poxy audi q5’s eying off whatever remaining old homes there are so they can develop it into an ugly abortion of a building complete with a 20year used by date so it can then be redveloped yet again into another souless concrete and metal pillbox. The melbourne cbd is a stinking shithole, the homeless are everywhere now so you only go into the cbd if your unlucky enough to work there but thanks to lockdown i have worked from home since march 2020 and i don’t miss the cbd one little bit but the poor homeless are in just about every suburb now, christ they must dread the windblasted winters here, and the wind blasted springs and the windblasted summers, that leaves, what, autumn? fuck!!!!

  377. Melbourne a city for heartless robots especially in the eastern half of Melbourne now days (Australia not the country it used to be

    Melbourne for the last thirty years has become nothing more than Sydney, first it started by not giving a fair-go, is not an Australian thing, or a Melbourne, I think it was something that came from Sydney. Now the people like to tell you that there is a difference between Melbourne and Sydney, but the reality is that is not the case. Melbourne has become elitist and developed a class-system that never used to exist in the place, that is not from Melbourne, whereby your dictated to you, by class-delegation of what others think of you. Hence there is not a huge amount of choice for poor people like myself, you can not even get a job there. It is a remarkably condescending and pompous city now days, full of arrogant clones. The amount of autonomy you have is dictated by other people and your class. Now back in the 1980s that was not the case, you were not discriminated against a poor person and obstructed the way you are now. Melbourne thanks to the Australian and the public, is much like a city with no options, unless you are middle-class and above and you are deliberately discriminated against. It is not a democracy per se, it is a pretentious, materialistic, plutocracy. Now the house prices, in Melbourne have been heading towards Loony Tunes, pretentious Sydney prices, increasingly for the last thirty years, which by the way is the way the culture in the eastern half of Melbourne has headed also around the same timeline. If you read Alan Marshall’s In My Own Heart, it talks about poor kids playing together in Brunswick before the depression, people used to live in Melbourne over Sydney as it used to be much nicer and cheaper, the culture was fundamentally different. This meant there was heaps of artists and creative people, but now days and for the last thirty years Melbourne has changed and become a Nanny State, and a plutocracy of whose superior to who, which is very much like Melbourne’s rival Sydney. There has always bad asses in Melbourne, but the slimy people who have since migrated there on mass, suddenly make Melbourne, full of these people that are just not nice people, that are only out for themselves that are competitive and do not give a damn about you, or your life. They are only out for themselves, there is no community spirit devoid of socio-economic status or compassion in Melbourne like it used to be, throughout especially the eastern half of Melbourne, look at the ludicrous house prices, this is as it has become just like Sydney whereby it is all about materialism and greed, and social-status. If the people who had taken Melbourne were genuine at all, they would treat you as an equal, regardless of how much money you have, how intelligent they think you are, this is just not the case. These people on the other hand possess no respect, they are much like the disproportionate house prices. This city is all about money and materialism, once upon a time, this was not the case. Lunatic drivers on the roads, alpha-male types who do not care, they are heartless, they may as well be robots. These are the developments over the last thirty years in Melbourne, they are not new ones unfortunately and they have gotten evidently worse. They are mainly focussed on survival and making heaps of money in order to lord it over people, part of it is pretension and the other part of it being the fact it is so expensive and the last part is greed. Throw in some red-neck ism and arrogance, and you have a toxic cocktail and an impossible city to navigate probably deliberately at the calculated at the hands of the petty bourgeoisie there as a poor person. If you are poor in Melbourne and they think you are particularly brilliant, or gifted, or you are not well connected, than the bourgeoisie fakes will ensure you can not do anything with your life, who just tend to think they are better than everyone else, who think they have a superior understanding of the world. It is not bad, for a country which is not supposed to have a class-system.

  378. No-class system hey in Orstralia

    500K Western suburbs house, 1.2M Eastern suburbs house, no-class system, it is more than twice the price depending on which side of the city you live in. You will deal pretentious deliberate nob in the eastern suburbs as well, who preferences the middle-class as well, whose a statue.

  379. No-class system

    Bum high up in the air.

  380. The lucky country in Melbourne if you happen to be well to do crook

    The only people that can afford to buy a house in the city, just like Sydney at least in the outrageously exorbitantly priced eastern suburbs of Melbourne, just like Sydney, are the people that build them, criminals and politicians, executives, ceos, cfos, wealthy business people. Now it is getting to the point, where you would have to be a hybrid of those things, to be able to afford to buy a house. Renting in the eastern half of the city is also insane, insanely expensive, let alone for what it is. If you are a poor person, they look at you with their backside a quadrillion miles in the air, that is how arrogant and pompous and snobby they are. The homeless do not stand a chance against the class-system in Australia or the poor. It is not like other countries whereas if you are poor, you are expected to not be poor, but they will give you work and other opportunities so you are no longer poor. The class-system in Australia is like something from the third-world these days, I theorise that the reason for this is because this countries is run by the class warfare hippies of the 1970s. As a poor-person there is no other options, unless you are naturally cut-out to be a tradesmen. No-class system Australia, this is exacerbated by the con-artists with power in this country look at Australia’s prime minister at the climate summit.

  381. Melbournians think they are the chosen ones of the Australia which is funny because they are so easy to schmooze. If you come from NSW or QLD just tell them how much you love AFL and hate Sydney and you will have 95% of Melbournians eating out of the palm of your hand. They are so unsophisticated and basic. They believe drinking Italian coffees is the height of culture and Melbourne of course is the only city that can make them properly. However its 2021 and you can get decent coffee in Ipswich now, they need some worthless new thing to brag about,,,

  382. Melbourne is like a cancer you need to cut it out of your life. Aggressive.

  383. If I ever find the piece of nigger trash who wrote this piece I will kill your family

  384. Absolutely spot on. Melbourne and the whole of Victoria is absolutely crap. The weather the road works the crime rate is totally horrendous. Melbourne/ Victoria has nothing good going for it at all. There is nothing exciting or eye opening to see. In Melbourne its every dog for themselves. Its a complete dump.

    • I agree. I’ve lived in Melbourne unfortunately for 48 years. I’ve seen Melbourne/Victoria go from bland to a complete shit hole. If i could i would leave this dump instantly. 90 thousand people moved for Victoria in 2021, good on them. I wish i could go as well. Melbourne is the nanny state of the world run by Dan the dictator Andrews a homo trying to be straight. I’m embarrassed to call myself a melbournian. There is nothing good about Melbourne/Victoria. The black gangs have more rights than anyone else. Also be careful what you say because you might be deemed as being racist. Go fuck yourself melbourne you cunt nanny city.

      • We just visited Melbin after moving away from that hell hole and a decade on and NOTHING has bloody changed! Horrible vision of a farm flying in to the airport, everyone smokes and just ugly people everywhere with no smiles on their faces!
        Coffee capital what a joke! We had burning hot and bitter coffee everywhere and we tried 6 different coffee roasters and cafes in the city and Collingwood, crap food, no wine selections except a Victorian Beer or a boring Cab Sav or Shiraz, horrendous service and no one cares or knows anything about Melbourne, we saw so many drug addicts passed out in the CBD one woman has her pants down with her crutch exposed to the city workers, there is rubbish everywhere, everything is covered in graffiti, road rage, nothing is new or modern it’s all old and run down! Never in a million years would we move back to that overcast, filthy, overrated dump of a city. See ya Melbin! 🖕🏻

  385. Hipster city

    Ever since the 1990s there has been this group of people called the hipsters. I recall on Greville Street, in that decade the ‘we think we are too cool, not give you a fair-go discriminate against poor people, pompous trendies that were hippies. There were people that were into certain genres such as hip hop they were very insular with a high degree of conformity and they were hipsters. People say that the American hipster movement started in New York in the late 1990s, but in Melbourne Australia it started earlier. The hipsters emerged out of the 1990s which made life then and ever since. The 1990s deified the 1970s it had a high emphasis on conformity and was extremely conservative. Such as being searched for drugs for no other reason but the stereotypical thinking back then. The hipsters embody the class-warfare waging, exclusive and elitist hippies who used their subculture as a societally manipulative tool and various agendas such as making people go along with everything. They were extraordinarily conservative and bourgeuisie the hippies in the 1970s that were the ruling elite and controlling, but so are the hipsters. The 1970s was like the 1950s.

  386. No tax-payers

    The people are bland and pompous in the places that they think have the most culture. Generally unpleasant and plastic. Melbourne is not a real good place to live as you can not move forward with your life in the place. As you struggle to obtain work or anything else. The people are very narrow-minded and will not give you a chance to do anything with your life. Some of that is exasperated by the hipster culture, but it extends to the whole they are very particular about who they will give jobs and the like to or whatever else. Although this is not exclusively a Melbourne problem, but it makes Melbourne a hard place to live in. Considering its reputation it is less than impressive that these are the realities. You are reduced to a conventional existence like a cog in a machine. I would not repeat my experiences of Melbourne. I don’t know why the people here, do things this way, but it is pretentious and makes life impossible. You are expected to live permanently on the dole here as there are no other options for you.

  387. I don’t admire the people here, anywhere else, no-matter how successful or capable or able to cope they are, in this city or anywhere else, whether they be Millennials or be anyone else!

  388. Melbourne has to many people, to many speed cameras and red light cameras. I am selling my house and leaving. Born and breed here can’t stand the place.

  389. I have had to live in this shithole my entire life, and I completely agree with everything that has been written above. If I had any chance of leaving this piece of shit Melbourne I would’ve been out of here a very long time ago, but unfortunately due to my family commitments and complete lack of finances, I don’t have any chance of getting out of this place. I could honestly write a 500 page essay about how much that I hate this place.

    And for those of you that are only visiting, lucky for you that you have the opportunity to leave and never return to this place, or having to interact with the fuckwits that live here.

    I too hate AFL with a passion but I have learnt enough to get by and speak with these football mad fuckwits.

    Anyway Melbourne is a shithole full stop!

    And for anyone that is thinking about moving here, seriously please don’t!! Because Melbourne is exactly like what was described in the above article.

    I wouldn’t recommend living in Melbourne to my worst enemy. As mentioned above.

    Shit weather
    Shit people
    Just shit everything

    And this is coming from someone who has lived in this shithole for my entire life

  390. “I COME FROM MELBOURNE” “YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF IT”?

    “Sure thing Chang, I heard of it. A giant shithole between Brisbane and Adelaide somewhere, full of changs like you telling everyone how great HK is and eating rabbit food with chopsticks.”

  391. Mlbsucs3000

    Biggest waste of life due to the weather and cost of living. A miserable place.

    The most livable city propaganda is just that, propaganda to make you believe otherwise.

  392. Spot on post and 90% of the comments on here are the real truth about this God forsaken place. I’ve lived here for nearly a decade and every year is just getting worse and worse. I don’t have much to add because most of it has been said (written) about already. I will say though, that reading the comments on this post have been a great form of catharsis. It’s good to see that there are many others who think the same, but unfortunately they are obviously all gone from this dump. I was seriously thinking I was going nuts in my own mind! This place has made me, an angry, joyless, shell of my previous self. I can’t wait to finally get the hell out of here soon and restart my life elsewhere. Never again!

  393. it’s a living hell! Worst government and police. Melbourne makes u want to die.

  394. I fucking live in melbourne you son of a bitch!

    • I live in Melbourne too!! It doesn’t change the fact that it is an absolute shithole!!

      I wouldn’t piss on Melbourne even if it was on fire 😂😂

  395. I moved here from a country town 2hrs away, and I actually think I’ll move back after my lease is up. If you want to save money. Melbourne is not the place to live.
    All you have to live for here is the food and tbh I’m bored of having no interesting places to go or things to do. Just aboriginal and gay pride marches every weekend.

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